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06 Nov 2012, 11:42 pm

Psychiatry is a kind of industry,And they need more customers to get money.
How to create more money?Create more potential customers.
Than means,sitting the standard of disease/illness/syndrome very low,they should get more money.
That's how diabetes drug selling.Setting the healthy blood glucose level very low.You can find the healthy blood glucose level is
lower and lower in history.

No friends?AS sure.
Sadly,a lot of people trust it.



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06 Nov 2012, 11:47 pm

Explain then the absorption of AS into ASD in DSM-V by psychiatrists.

After DSM-V goes into effect, AS will not be a separate diagnosis.

There goes your conspiracy theory - right out the metaphorical window.



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06 Nov 2012, 11:57 pm

Fnord wrote:
Explain then the absorption of AS into ASD in DSM-V by psychiatrists.

After DSM-V goes into effect, AS will not be a separate diagnosis.

There goes your conspiracy theory - right out the metaphorical window.

:)
A lot of people like say hi,hello to everyone(not me)
...is it"Restricted and repetitive interests and behavior"?



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07 Nov 2012, 1:40 am

I would agree in general that psychiatry is about money and having power over people, but I don't think AS itself is a conspiracy. After all, you can't treat it with drugs, so it would make more sense to label someone as OCD, schizophrenic or depressed, then they could be medicated.



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07 Nov 2012, 2:38 am

not just psychiatry. The great thing about Autism is that there are so many different things people are encouraged to try out as therapy. That creates a whole new kind of product and service line. It's like "Green" products. It helps out our economy and makes people feel like their being paid attention to: they get sympathy for their life pain and they create jobs for other people.



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07 Nov 2012, 4:01 am

chiastic_slide wrote:
I would agree in general that psychiatry is about money and having power over people, but I don't think AS itself is a conspiracy. After all, you can't treat it with drugs, so it would make more sense to label someone as OCD, schizophrenic or depressed, then they could be medicated.

Not only drugs can selling,they can selling "service" and "social skill training".And in their theory,AS could not be cure,so they can sell those forever.And their target: those people have no friends are easy targets.
Just like cult found some lonely people,whatever their lonely reason:
You are sinner!
(You are AS!)
Look at our bible.
(Look at our DSM-V)
We can lead you to happiness.
(We can help you.)
So trust me.:)(So trust me.)

An than,you know the Milgram experiment?The Milgram experiment show how people trust those white suit guy easily.

In economics,humans are profit-driven,so they can interpret the DSM-V or something like that as their most profit.Even the DSM-V
is written by those people can get profit through it.Look at their words:
"Restricted and repetitive interests and behavior"
What is "Restricted and repetitive interests and behavior"?
They can interpreted as whatever they like,like say hello is repetitive interests.

I am sooooooo lonely.



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07 Nov 2012, 4:14 am

Merculangelo wrote:
not just psychiatry. The great thing about Autism is that there are so many different things people are encouraged to try out as therapy. That creates a whole new kind of product and service line. It's like "Green" products. It helps out our economy and makes people feel like their being paid attention to: they get sympathy for their life pain and they create jobs for other people.


The big money-Rush
Big money goes around the world
Big money underground
Big money got a mighty voice
Big money make no sound
Big money pull a million strings
Big money hold the prize
Big money weave a mighty web
Big money draw the flies

Sometimes pushing people around
Sometimes pulling out the rug
Sometimes pushing all the buttons
Sometimes pulling out the plug
It's the power and the glory
It's a war in paradise
It's a cinderella story
On a tumble of the dice

Big money goes around the world
Big money take a cruise
Big money leave a mighty wake
Big money leave a bruise
Big money make a million dreams

Big money spin big deals
Big money make a mighty head
Big money spin big wheels

Sometimes building ivory towers
Sometimes knocking castles down
Sometimes building you a stairway --
Lock you underground
It's that old-time religion
It's the kingdom they would rule
It's the fool on television
Getting paid to play the fool

Big money goes around the world
Big money give and take
Big money done a power of good
Big money make mistakes
Big money got a heavy hand
Big money take control
Big money got a mean streak
Big money got no soul...



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07 Nov 2012, 4:46 am

It's odd, people think just because there wasn't a label, it must mean said people who it fits were just moping along like the rest of humanity and didn't need help.

A point: did you know that most people with AS were actually diagnosed with Schizophrenia before AS became a standard label (it was called "Simple Schizophrenia" back then)?

It's about help, and if people can earn some money by helping others, then it helps both sides.



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07 Nov 2012, 5:10 am

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A point: did you know that most people with AS were actually diagnosed with Schizophrenia before AS became a standard label (it was called "Simple Schizophrenia" back then)?


Not me.But the "Simple Schizophrenia"looks like another ways to earn money.

>It's about help, and if people can earn some money by helping others, then it helps both sides.
I don't think they can help me,in my view,they just to make money and joy for judge others.I don't trust them.
I think my "problem/individuality" is I never think any authority is more credibility than normal.

Oh,a kind of AS feature.

1984,Ministry of Love.



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07 Nov 2012, 5:51 am

Your argument holds water
Then you ruin it
By strange grammar
And strange comments

....friend or foe?



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07 Nov 2012, 6:14 am

Surfman wrote:
Your argument holds water
Then you ruin it
By strange grammar
And strange comments

....friend or foe?

Sorry for the grammar, English is not my native language.
Although I use my native language with strange grammar.
>Then you ruin it
I didn't ...It just a sarcasm about they can make every behavior as autism to make money.
Why so serious to distinguish friend or foe?



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07 Nov 2012, 6:24 am

Many come here pretending to be something they are not.

If you present a valid arguement
then act the fool
you destroy the credibility of your arguement

I cant rememberer the correct name for it.................................
It is a very very very very very very common ploy nowadays

Remember there is a ton of money at stake............................
people pretend to be revolutionaries to control revolution

Big money makes double agents



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07 Nov 2012, 7:13 am

bread wrote:
Psychiatry is a kind of industry,And they need more customers to get money.
How to create more money?Create more potential customers.
Than means,sitting the standard of disease/illness/syndrome very low,they should get more money.
That's how diabetes drug selling.Setting the healthy blood glucose level very low.You can find the healthy blood glucose level is
lower and lower in history.

No friends?AS sure.
Sadly,a lot of people trust it.


Here is where your theory falls apart:

Where is THE "treatment" being marketed to autistics?

Where is "THE medication" that either promises to cure or at least alleviate the symtoms of autism?

There is no treatment, and there are no meds that are target marketed directly to autistics. All treatments and meds used to treat autistics are targeted to specific symptoms that are not specifically autistic to begin with.

If this is a conspiracy, it's the worst one anyone has ever devised. It is a failure as a conspiracy because the very criteria for autism are so convoluted and difficult to understand, nobody has come up with a single therapeutic treatment that can rightly be claimed to "treat autism."

No treatment targeting autism specifically = no conspiracy.


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07 Nov 2012, 7:17 am

This bears mentioning too:

If this is a conspiracy, explain why so many professionals WON'T diagnose it, and why so many who actually ARE on the spectrum have to go through several doctors before we ARE diagnosed.

It doesn't add up.


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07 Nov 2012, 8:05 am

bread wrote:
Why so serious to distinguish friend or foe?


Because the logic you're presenting looks an awful lot like similar logic used by many others who pop into WP who are eventually exposed as being here for the sole purpose of "debunking" the existence of high functioning autism.

I am not (yet) saying that is why you are here. I'm just trying to explain why you got that question from Surfman. Are you really here to learn about us and autism, or are you here with your mind already made up that it's all a bunch of hooey?

I hope it is the former and not the latter.

If it is the former, you might want to try starting out by asking more questions than making statements. If it is the latter, good luck with that here. It's been tried many times, and it always fails in the end.


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07 Nov 2012, 8:18 am

Surfman wrote:
Many come here pretending to be something they are not.

If you present a valid arguement
then act the fool
you destroy the credibility of your arguement

I cant rememberer the correct name for it.................................
It is a very very very very very very common ploy nowadays

Remember there is a ton of money at stake............................
people pretend to be revolutionaries to control revolution

Big money makes double agents

Now I think you are the fool who do not understand sarcasm.Well,I am have no interest argue with you.
You believe what kind of theory is your problem.I just provide a alternative.Umm...I guess you are more like a double agents basic
on your rude.