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10 Nov 2012, 7:25 am

Often, when I'm reading something (both if I read it aloud or not), after I finished reading, I understand nothing of what I've just read. This causes me problems expecially when I'm reading newspapers articles at school. It gets a bit better when I take my homeopatic meds, but they don't completely stop it.
What's this? It happens to you, too? How can I stop it?


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10 Nov 2012, 7:49 am

Well, considering the fact that homoeopathy is all placebo, it's not surprising that it doesn't solve your problem. I tend to get the same sort of thing when I'm not concentrating properly, or when I really don't care about the text I'm reading, but this doesn't happen too often to me, so I never really thought much about it. I'd say, if it's something that really causes you problems, then you should consult your doctor.



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10 Nov 2012, 9:34 am

I find I read very slowly so I can "hold" what I am reading. I see everything in pictures, so reading is quite experiential - unless I am not interested. I have to go back to word sequences and build picture units for tests. If I am not interested, I have pictures about everything except the text I am supposed to be reading. Would it help to highlight key points and then make up a story about those points?

Do you find that what you read comes out at different times? Is it really not there or just not immediately accessible? I remember my dad saying that he was really tired and he was trying to study for a first aid exam. He gave up reading and just stared at the pages. He said he couldn't have told you anything about what he looked at, but when he wrote the test he could see everything he needed.

I don't know if you can stop it, but I think it is worth just playing with tactics that can improve it. One thing I am finding helps me stay with things I am reading when my mind doesn't want to is I play with modelling clay while I read. I think that physical grounding helps control my wandering and improves my ability to engage with whatever is on the page. I find I have to be mindful of distractions in my environment when I read, too. Otherwise I am inadvertently attending things around me and not the reading. Do you use earplugs or anything in class? I am just brainstorming here, maybe something will help you but I am also brainstorming for me. I am always trying to improve on this for myself as well.



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10 Nov 2012, 9:48 am

I think I can half relate to this, or maybe completely relate depending on what you mean.

When I read, I'm reading the words out loud in my head and listening to that inner voice with my inner ears which then send the message to some other part of my brain for processing. That's how I process all text, by transferring it from visual to oral to auditory to conceptual. I don't know if that's the same as what most people do if they're verbal/sound thinkers rather than purely visual (although I'm mostly visual in other areas).

My problem is that I often find I can have read an entire paragraph "out-loud" using my inner voice, but that my inner ears weren't listening and had gone on an outing somewhere else with my inner eyes. Does that make sense? Basically I know I've read every word, I know every word has passed through my mind and been understood individually. However, the meaning as a whole never made it because there was nobody home to listen to what I said and my memory doesn't bank it either so then I have to read the whole paragraph again and make sure I'm actually listening the second time. It can cause me problems sometimes, e.g. if I'm tired, because I think I'm reading really diligently and won't notice that I'm not taking anything in.


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10 Nov 2012, 10:32 am

Yes, it happens to me almost all the time. I thought this is because of ADD?
I also noticed that most of the people are not aware of the multiple meanings of a writing and even though I process information much slower, I understand it in more debth. I wonder if this is the reason why I have to re-read a text because sometimes I feel that I'm missing something? (unconsciously)
It seems that I just stuck on different ideas and can't move forward until I can't solve the matter.


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10 Nov 2012, 10:55 am

Yes, weirdly I sometimes find I don't think I've taken in anything but I can regurgitate the information perfectly too. Brains are very strange things. I cannot take anything in when my blood sugar levels dip too low too.



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10 Nov 2012, 12:18 pm

fanty wrote:
homoeopathy is all placebo


That is a matter of opinion. There are doubtless many completely useless and ineffective hemeopathic medicines, but there are also others that are extremely powerful. Without knowing what exactly the OP is taking, you cannot write it off as "placebo."



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10 Nov 2012, 1:32 pm

fanty wrote:
Well, considering the fact that homoeopathy is all placebo,


Homeopathy is not placebo, these are two very different things.

Homeopathy is based on few simple rules and the results are repeatable. One main difference to allopathy is that the prescription of a certain drug is not exclusively focusing on symptoms but also, and sometimes even more, on the constitution and medical history of the recipient. The prescription follows a system of rules and is comprehensible, provided a person bothers to acquire some knowledge about the matter.

Furthermore, a placebo would not work on animals or infants, whereas homeopathic remedies unambiguously do.

The effect of placebo is based on belief; the belief that physicians and other medical staff have some "secret" (from the perspective of laypersons) knowledge and are going to perform a ritual on them, similar as that of a shaman but with the difference that they invoke the wonders of pharmacology instead of the spirits of the dead.

In contrast, homeopathy has nothing to do with a person's beliefs, it also works without them even knowing that they are receiving treatment.



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10 Nov 2012, 1:36 pm

PTSmorrow wrote:
fanty wrote:
Well, considering the fact that homoeopathy is all placebo,


Homeopathy is not placebo, these are two very different things.

Homeopathy is based on few simple rules and the results are repeatable. One main difference to allopathy is that the prescription of a certain drug is not exclusively focusing on symptoms but also, and sometimes even more, on the constitution and medical history of the recipient. The prescription follows a system of rules and is comprehensible, provided a person bothers to acquire some knowledge about the matter.

Furthermore, a placebo would not work on animals or infants, whereas homeopathic remedies unambiguously do.

The effect of placebo is based on belief; the belief that physicians and other medical staff have some "secret" (from the perspective of laypersons) knowledge and are going to perform a ritual on them, similar as that of a shaman but with the difference that they invoke the wonders of pharmacology instead of the spirits of the dead.

In contrast, homeopathy has nothing to do with a person's beliefs, it also works without them even knowing that they are receiving treatment.

Is there scientific study that show that it work? The idea that homeopathy is not a placebo just go against all what is know about physic and chemistry.

For the Op problem, maybe it's hyperlexia...


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10 Nov 2012, 3:05 pm

Tollorin wrote:
PTSmorrow wrote:
fanty wrote:
Well, considering the fact that homoeopathy is all placebo,


Homeopathy is not placebo, these are two very different things.

Homeopathy is based on few simple rules and the results are repeatable. One main difference to allopathy is that the prescription of a certain drug is not exclusively focusing on symptoms but also, and sometimes even more, on the constitution and medical history of the recipient. The prescription follows a system of rules and is comprehensible, provided a person bothers to acquire some knowledge about the matter.

Furthermore, a placebo would not work on animals or infants, whereas homeopathic remedies unambiguously do.

The effect of placebo is based on belief; the belief that physicians and other medical staff have some "secret" (from the perspective of laypersons) knowledge and are going to perform a ritual on them, similar as that of a shaman but with the difference that they invoke the wonders of pharmacology instead of the spirits of the dead.

In contrast, homeopathy has nothing to do with a person's beliefs, it also works without them even knowing that they are receiving treatment.

Is there scientific study that show that it work? The idea that homeopathy is not a placebo just go against all what is know about physic and chemistry.

For the Op problem, maybe it's hyperlexia...


I don't know about a generally recognized scientific study, at least not on a large scale.

The proof is in the pudding. Each substance causes symptoms in a healthy person, and these describe what is to cure. Give a healthy person a substance like aurum metallicum, and after a while they are going to develop depression and start thinking about suicide by jumping from a high building. The Materia Medica is filled with precise descriptions of clinical pictures.

Furthermore, homeopathy takes into account (and affects) not only physical but also mental and emotional symptoms because we are not only bodies, i.e., matter.

Allopathy targets a symptom like, say, fever. But it doesn't care what kind of fever a person is dealing with although in fact there are many different kinds, and also many different constitutions and some diatheses. That is, even if two people with sore throat or anything else might consult a homeopath they are much likely being prescribed different drugs because of the differences and their medical history.
Hence it's almost impossible to test the effects of a particular substance because this would require identical recipients. It's all based on experience and testing.

The main difference is that allopathy strives to make symptoms disappear at least for a while; it's a science of covering up. Homeopathy's attempt, however, is to enable the organism to heal itself.

I've seen remarkable effects in both animals as well as humans.



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10 Nov 2012, 3:27 pm

It could be a few things. If it's due to your attention wandering and you find yourself thinking of other things or reading the same parts of the text over and over, it could be ADD or similar symptoms. If you are able to concentrate on the text and complete the part you are reading successfully but not taking in the information it could be a processing disorder, which is very common in autism (I have a mild verbal processing disorder which means I can have trouble following verbal information but I can take in written information without problems - you could be the other way around).

What is the reason for your reading? Are you studying? If so, are there other ways you can study the same material (lectures, videos, interaction with a teacher)? If that is the case you may want to mention your difficulties to your teachers and perhaps they can make some adjustments for you.



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10 Nov 2012, 4:06 pm

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it could be ADD or similar symptoms.


I don't know about ADD; I've been diagnosed also with Tourette's, but I don't think that Tourette's is causing this to me.


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Are you studying?


Yes. This is why I take my meds every morning before going to school, too. They can't make the problems disappear, but they help me.


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10 Nov 2012, 4:48 pm

Interesting topic, shame people ended up arguing about hocus pocus water...



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10 Nov 2012, 5:48 pm

This happens to me all the time. Someone mentioned ADD. It CAN be a symptom of ADD, but it doesn't have to be. I don't qualify for a diagnosis of ADD, but I still have a lot of difficulty with reading comprehension. I am hyperlexic, and I hear this can be a problem for people with hyperlexia too. Sometimes I have to re-read something numerous to get it, and sometimes that still doesn't help.


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10 Nov 2012, 5:59 pm

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Sometimes I have to re-read something numerous to get it, and sometimes that still doesn't help.


Same for me.


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10 Nov 2012, 6:39 pm

All too often. When I was in school and had to read books for class projects I'd often have to re-read an entire paragraph or page, after realizing I had just read it but did not absorb any of it.