Do you think that AS is part of autism?

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Do you think that AS is part of austism or something completely seperate? I think it's seperate. I've known some LFA and HFA autistics and they are basically the complete opposite of me. One HFA couldn't even spell the word 'carpet' and she was a sophomore! And since aspies are typically known for being very smart (well, not always but close enough sometimes), I just don't see how someone of our type couldn't figure out that carpet is car and pet put together. And for the record, she was not dyslexic. Anyway, what do you think? Do you think AS is a higher degree of autism or something completely seperate?

Dyslexic - how you know she was not?

And from the look's of it 100% diagnose of having any of this stuff right is slim with the time people seem to be getting on a diagnoses would not surprise me if they said you had a different blood type than you have....


And did you ask it to spell more stuff....

she spell it carpit?

I think it is a higher functioning form of autism, considering it has the symptoms of the classic autism, minus the language delay, and that we are less severe, though we are not mild.
Another thing is that some people with the classic autism can have mental retardation as well.

Well, here's what happened. I have these little cousins (they were seven or eight at the time) and I had been helping them with their homework. One of them, Julia, had asked me to spell carpet and I explained to her that it was just car and pet put together (I had already known this since I was about four or five, so yeah). Anyway, in class the next day I was explaining to some of the other kids about the whole helping my cousin with carpet thing and this one girl said she didn't even know how to spell carpet. I asked how could she not know that (okay, maybe a little too bluntly but I was a bit shocked) and she said she was autistic. That's when another kid asked if she was dyslexic and she said no, so yeah.

Well, maybe she just has poor spelling.

Maybe... But I just don't understand how you can't spell carpet at sixteen! It was already bad enough with my cousin, whom I believe may have ADHD. I know her older brother does, but he never shows any symptons of it. However, her twin sister definently doesn't have it.

In my case, yes. However, I do not wish to be cured.

Poor spelling may or may not be related to being autistic. AFter reading so many posts here and stories, I think that Asperger's is just another subset of ASD and not all are necessarily "higher functioning" than other autistic people. I also think there are a lot of children and adults being diagnosed with Asperger's when they've had speech delay.

""I asked how could she not know that (okay, maybe a little too bluntly but I was a bit shocked)""

No offence but I told no one about my spelling or where I was going when I went out of class, maybe she said no coz she has got this reaction before...

Maybe it is bad spelling - but should of asked her how she spell's it if you didn't, I avoided allot of word's I could not spell in school to another word that meant the same that I knew how to spell.

That's when another kid asked if she was dyslexic and she said no, so yeah. And I would say no too - maybe she been teased in the past...

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http://www.ldonline.org/ldbasics/signs or she might not know its a learning problem but don't go at it hard at her....

Bear in mind that even if you limit the autistic range to just aspies, you have a wild variety of abilities and impairments. For example, I have horrid issues with judging space and time. I can't even play first-person shooter video games unless there's a map of some sort. But other aspies have no problem with these things. Whatever wiring is failing in that girl is working on you, so you're not going to be able to get it, just as most NTs don't get us.

Yeah, I've always been excellent when it comes to reading, language, and spelling. When I was ten, I tested at a college level for language mechanics. As for the girl, it's not like I'm ever going to see her again anyway. I moved! It's a good thing, too, since I was shunned out of that school from day one. Everyone in my new district can't stand that school and they love me, so yeah. Also, when you were all talking about language delays, I didn't really start talking until I was four. I had said my first word (blanket) when I was about one, my said I read a tiny bit when I was three, but I wasn't full on talking or reading until I was four. Yeah, I know, I'm weird. lol

Yeah, I think it kinda is in certain ways.

Spelling is a kind of talent that some people have, and some don't. In the extremely variable English language, correct spelling requires intensive memorization for anyone without that talent. Even simple words may elude some otherwise quite intelligent people; spelling is a niche skill that doesn't generally reflect a person's general capability.

Three possibilities:
1. You have natural talent for spelling
2. You have natural talent for memorization and use it to help your spelling
3. You spell phonetically and often incorrectly (because English doesn't always follow the rules)

The natural talent for spelling occurs more often in both AS and autism than among NTs, chiefly among visual thinkers who see words in their written form, rather than as mental representations of how they sound. A misspelled word simply "looks wrong" to a visual thinker with this sort of spelling expertise. I have this talent myself; I did not learn to read by phonics, but by the appearance of entire words. If I'm exposed to a word once (or twice if it doesn't follow the rules), I know what it looks like and thus how to spell it. That's not truly a commendable thing, since I had to do no work at all to come by this ability.

Aspies without said talent are more likely to be good at spelling than NTs because they do have that capacity for memorization; but not all Aspies are interested enough in spelling to make the effort. Quite a few people on the spectrum read dictionaries, though; and that's definitely conducive to good spelling.

But if you have natural talent for neither spelling nor memorization--these talents are common but certainly not omnipresent on the Spectrum--then you are forced to spell by the rules you know about words--"I before E" and so forth, as well as the rules of phonics and any patterns you've noticed. Because the English language has no hard-and-fast rules about spelling, even after Webster's overhaul, this means that mistakes will be made.

I think that Aspies may be more likely to be memorizers, and Auties more likely to be naturally good spellers; but then, I myself am an exception to that rule--an Aspie with natural talent. However, the lack of spelling expertise says nothing about whether or not a person is on the Spectrum, or which part of it he is on (barring LFA with comorbid MR, which can of course result in illiteracy).

The logic fallacy here assumes all Autsies and Aspies think alike. But much like NT's we vary.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php? ... ht=#269610

Granted the test is not scientific and your on the spectrum but the scoring does suggest you are not typical of aspies so it would be very hard for you to draw any strong conclusions from your personally experience. Hell I score 180 (today 182 back in June) and I can not make but a small number of assumptions about AS which might be false.

Spelling has been one of my better points and if a word is spelt wrong it just looks wrong to me. Sometimes I have to write out a word just to be sure it is spelt correctly.

I don't know if Aspergers is necessarily less severe autism. Perhaps the impairments are less obvious but they are still very pervasive. I think it is a little bit different to autism as such.