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Everybody hates me. For being who I am. Nobody likes my ideas of fighting against the death penalty for mentally ret*d. Nobody likes me for fighting for human rights for the north koreans. Everybody hates me discussing controversial issues.

Everybody know and remember me only as a bad guy.

Here is a fictional story for you:

A poor family had a small house in the city, and outside their house was a box where each member of the family put money in, each week. The money should be used for food and other neccessities.

I walked past the house and saw a thief taking the box with the money. I took a stick and smashed into his head, and gave the box with the money, to the poor family.

I was arrested for assault and everybody forgot about the theif.

In the future I am remembered as being a person who beats other people, and not as a person who saved a family from going hungry.

Its not everybody that hates you just the ones who arent worth talking to anyways.

Otherwise yeah life sucks people suck society sucks just try to tolerate it as best you can and stock up on marshmallows to roast over their flaming corpses when the traits they ridicule us for not having ultimately leads them to their own destruction.

I think my problem is you seem like a person who enjoys the thought of the beating more than the thought of saving. Stop trying to save the world. Other than words your likely doing nothing anyway. You can improve the world by being a better person yourself not by trying to change other people.

"" I walked past the house and saw a thief taking the box with the money. I took a stick and smashed into his head, and gave the box with the money, to the poor family. ""

The reason that is because the story although he meant well - he went at it the wrong way,
" I took a stick and smashed into his head " - is also a crime, when he could of went at it another way without also making himself a criminal....

If you don't approach thing's the right way you tend to get -

"* Everybody hates me. For being who I am. Nobody likes my ideas of fighting against the death penalty for mentally ret*d. Nobody likes me for fighting for human rights for the north koreans. Everybody hates me discussing controversial issues. *"

Just got to look at how you approached it in a 3rd person way, as if that was someone else that did that kind of way how would they approach it - then you think how & pick the right one - although this is meant to be done very fast - some people make the wrong choice and you should learn from that mistake...

"* A wiser person learns from other people's mistake’s, but first you must learn the right way to do thing's - in this type of thing or they will jump on you & make you feel like they hate you*"

Told you before, I don't hate you. Don't even know you.
you do seem to have a giant chip on your shoulder, butthat's ok...been there, done that myself. Problem is, you seem to keep making these odd erroneous assumptions and sweeping generalisations and that makes it difficult (not impossible) for me to take you seriously.

dktekno, I honestly wish you the best because you seem to be having some kind of problems where you are. I can assure you these things are false. I'm not sure about the specifics (I'm pretty sure you will find few on the board that support oppressing North Koreans) but I have found the board open to controversial ideas.

diseased is correct however with his points. I still hope you the best.

That's a story that I can certainly sink my teeth into.

Everytime I ever tried to play the hero, it always backfired somehow; it's easy enough to say in hindsight that it should've been done differently somehow. But that's hindsight vs. instantaneous spur of the moment decisions made in the present moment.

So my best advice is — don't; I've found a lot of comfort and tranquility in near total apathy.

Learn how to sit back and find the misfortunes of others funny, because they're probably just NT's anyway, and NT's don't want you (the only polite thing to do, therefore, is reciprocate).

Hehe Ive noticed that as well.

People complain that I dont reciprocate but then if I do reciprocate they complain that Im being ugly to them. They seem to be incapable of realizing Im just copying how theyre treating me

SteveK even says I am not an aspie, and when I presented evidences of him (my journal), he said they made a mistake (wrong diagnosis).

He also compared me to Hitler, but I am not even close to Hitler as I am so much against everything he did.

I can't be with NT's. They have me for my political opinions.

I can't be with aspies either, they compare me to Hitler and say I am not an aspie.

I'm shunned at by everybody.

i don't think everyone hates you, do your relatives hat you? probably not, and i think that those ideas are perfectly fine-molded ideas, just because they don't support it doesn't mean they disagree, maybe those things are just not in demand, and as for that story, first of all, murder is much more severe than stealing, no matter who is losing the stolen merchandise, and second of all, you never jammed a stick in a robber's head, have you? so then why does it matter? your are well liked here at wrongplanet! there is nothing to worry about!

Thats normal.. politics are a majorly emotional thing for NTs and they will attack and lynch anyone and everyone its part of the discussion for them if you dont like it stay away from political discussion. Its like football to them.. insult a guys favorite team and he might try to knock your teeth out.



If your taking offense to an intellectual analogy then your probably not an aspie.

I also find it hard to believe.. if you are you had to have lived a very sheltered life to have made it to adulthood without having to develop a skin made of titanium like the rest of us.

dktekno,

In a way, I was poking fun to try and show how crazy it is. SERIOUSLY though, that IS how Hitler started out, and it IS scary. You would make a LOT more friends IF you:

1. Realize there is MORE to politics than simply decisions. I WISH more understood that. Companies have gone bankrupt, nations have been destroyed, etc.... because of people making decisions based on some short term goal. That is how NAZI germany and the USSR got started.

2. Realize you may not have all the facts, and other countries should NOT intervene! I know this sounds STUPID coming from a person in the USA, as they have a hegemony of sorts. But I don't agree with that and, nine times out of ten, it really doesn't work.

3. Realize that EVERY culture, etc... has its good and bad. My entire perception is changing because of the revalation of AS. I have to wonder what else I have missed.

4. Realize that you can't kill everyone. MAYBE you should work towards trying to make everyone more reasonable.

5. Realize that you are NOT perfect and might have made a mistake. Even if you didn't, others may have. ALSO, some DO have other motives.

BTW I am willing to believe you have AS. As I said, it may just have a comorbid. But WHY do you expect ANYONE wants to be associated with someone that wants to get rid of BILLIONS of people, and run the world his/her self? That is the scariest part.

HEY, I would LOVE to change things. I like BEEF, but I don't eat it anymore because of the idiots that try to contaminate the food supply with BSE! I have MERCURY in my mouth because some jerk dentist LIED to me! I have to live wth flourescent lights, etc... I ALSO hate the idea of 15+ year loans! If we got rid of those loans, inflation could reverse, more people could afford homes, etc... Of course, first, LOTS would go broke!

AND HEY, did you ever listen to revolution, from the beatles? It sums up the argument against you!

Steve

Last edited by SteveK on 20 Dec 2006, 5:57 pm, edited 2 times in total.

I don't know you well enough to hate you yet

And he's qualified to make a diagnosis? No offense to SteveK but, dude, I'd take that with a grain of salt.


So then don't worry about it.



Again with the generalisations, dude. You've had, what, one person here compare you to Hitler.... one guy out of 7,000+. I'd hardly call that "they compare me to Hitler and say I am not an aspie". I'd call that 'one guy compared me to Hitler'.
This may sound harsh but I assure you that's not my intent... but if you make the same kind of grandiose, sweeping generalisations in a political discussion as I've seen you make in this thread, I'm not surprised people don't want to talk politics.
Maybe ditch the absolutist, everything-in-black-or-white approach.

There's no such thing as an NT political opinion. There's all kinds of opinions out there and only a tiny percentage of the population are aspies.

The earth's been around for about five billion years. There's maybe six billion people here besides me. I'm not too crazy about the way things are, but they're not going to change on my account. The tides and the weather have the same kind of momentum as historical events, and I can't change them either.

The handful of people who made a difference, did they really make a difference? How many christians care anything at all about what jesus taught and what he lived and died for? How many horrible wars in asia have been fought by buddhists killing each other?

The world isn't going to change to be the way I want it to be. For most aspies, just managing to get by is a huge achievement.

And he is supposed to listen to someone that is diseased? Sorry, I couldn't resist.

I AM surprised though, that he gives me so much credit after the nasty retort he gave me.

HEY, I once had a LOT of time to myself, and thought about this SAME thing. I went back through MY history, and history I learned, and what I knew of the economy, etc... I didn't find any full clear pattern. and capitalism STINKS! There are SO many problems! THEFT, EXTORTION, BRIBERY, SLAVERY, etc... At times, I wish we could just BARTER. Sadly, that just won't work. I gave up. Capitalism is the best of many evils. TRUE communism would be GREAT, but it requires true altruism, and few sustain that for long. BTW I don't view cuba as TRULY communist. It is effectively a dictatorship. I don't view china or russia as TRULY communist. They are oligarchies. WITH altruism, everyone can do well, and reaps the rewards justly. WITHOUT altruism you have things like poorly built migs with poor comfort, and stores that aren't well stocked. Even I eventually succumbed to anti-altruistic sentiments. Besides, how could I implement it? I was too altruistic though. Wholesale killing, etc... was out of the question.

Steve