Is it Possible to have both HFA and AS?

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20 Nov 2012, 10:03 pm

I was wondering and it kinda has been bugging me off and on because I have been told I have both and have been diagnosed with both. When I was a child I was diagnosed with HFA but later on diagnosed with Aspergers Syndrome. Most of my quirks seem to run along the lines of AS but I did kind of have a speech delay in my early childhood years. My family members say I have both. Im not quite sure if its just one or the other at times or if AS and HFA are the same thing at times If not it might be possible. :roll:


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20 Nov 2012, 10:04 pm

My understanding is that AS includes no speech delay. However, isn't AS coming off the DSM anyway (as of the V)?



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20 Nov 2012, 10:11 pm

EastWestCoastGirl wrote:
My understanding is that AS includes no speech delay. However, isn't AS coming off the DSM anyway (as of the V)?
Yeah thats what I have heard and when it does it will most likely fit into the HFA category.


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20 Nov 2012, 10:24 pm

Lets just face it.
They are the same thing
there are so many variations to as and hfa that really it's the same.
not to mention Neurologists swing back and forth on the subject so much.

I wish they would stop with the what to name it and start with how can i help them. live better lives.

I just heard one say that there is nothing she could do, there's no cure.

I say; There is nothing to cure, it's all about learning how to live in a hostile environment called earth.



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20 Nov 2012, 10:31 pm

i guess AS is just another name for HFA.


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20 Nov 2012, 10:37 pm

HFA is not a diagnostic term, it is just a classification term. If you have Aspergers you have HFA. If you have classic autism but are verbal and fairly functioning, then you also have HFA. All AS people are considered HFA, but not all HFA are considered AS, so the two terms do not mean exactly the same thing. If you qualified for classic autism as a child, I am not sure how they can change this. A language delay is a language delay. It doesn't disappear as you get older.


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20 Nov 2012, 10:57 pm

I think it's just semantics. ie. It's the same thing, two different professionals may use either term to mean the same thing


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20 Nov 2012, 11:21 pm

littlelily613 wrote:
HFA is not a diagnostic term, it is just a classification term. If you have Aspergers you have HFA. If you have classic autism but are verbal and fairly functioning, then you also have HFA. All AS people are considered HFA, but not all HFA are considered AS, so the two terms do not mean exactly the same thing. If you qualified for classic autism as a child, I am not sure how they can change this. A language delay is a language delay. It doesn't disappear as you get older.


Some professionals incorrectly modify diagnoses based on "progress." I have heard of people having their diagnoses changed from autism to AS. This is not really how it's supposed to go but I think that sort of thing is one of the reasons for the shift to ASD.



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20 Nov 2012, 11:40 pm

fleurdelily wrote:
I think it's just semantics. ie. It's the same thing, two different professionals may use either term to mean the same thing
Like a puma as to cougar as to mountai lion?Or freedom fries is to french fries is to fries?


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21 Nov 2012, 12:42 am

AspieOtaku wrote:
fleurdelily wrote:
I think it's just semantics. ie. It's the same thing, two different professionals may use either term to mean the same thing
Like a puma as to cougar as to mountai lion?Or freedom fries is to french fries is to fries?


exactly


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21 Nov 2012, 2:04 am

AspieOtaku wrote:
fleurdelily wrote:
I think it's just semantics. ie. It's the same thing, two different professionals may use either term to mean the same thing
Like a puma as to cougar as to mountai lion?Or freedom fries is to french fries is to fries?


I actually disagree. Everyone here goes on about a spectrum. If AS and HFA are different segments of the spectrum, there isn't going to be a clear line separating AS from HFA for those in the border territory.

I think with HFA there's sort of an "a-ha," moment for those diagnosing, especially in childhood, wherein the doctor can pull out a check list and say, "this child doesn't have age-appropriate skills for speaking or verbal comprehension." There's something, usually language-related skills, that can be used as a measuring stick comparing the subject to "normal" children.

The reason AS has been so invisible is because while it is also a form of autism, it may not be apparent at a young age. An AS child may seem very different, but they pass all the "tests" as to what a child is expected to at his particular age, which is why you hear so many stories of people with AS saying, "I always felt different than the rest, it became apparent as I grew. But as a kid in school, I wasn't identified by doctors/administrators as having any problems because I didn't exhibit any delay in age-appropriate language and comprehension skills."



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21 Nov 2012, 11:15 am

^^I guess I'm on the border between both then.For some strange reason when you mention the a ha I visualized a doctor jumping up and pointing at me and saying A HA!


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