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MisterCosgrove
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21 Dec 2012, 6:48 pm

All my life, I thought I was an official aspie. I was even officially dx'ed as AS. I began seeing second thoughts to it. I have a co-morbid condition that doesn't usually, but in my case it brought on mild symptoms of ASD. The condition is rare and represents many similarities with cerebral palsy. Can one explain my phenomenon?


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22 Dec 2012, 2:49 am

PANDAS or a related auto-immune disorder?

Yeah, for those who claim that Aspergers is a "difference" not a disorder. Please explain why car accidents, head trauma, and whatever OP has (cerebral palsy is not a "difference") can cause the exact same symptoms.



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22 Dec 2012, 4:23 am

I think people call it a difference because disorder implies inferiority and they object to AS being seen as inferior to neurotypicality.

As for the head trauma argument, consider this: If a lizard through some accident looses it's legs it clearly is disabled by it. Snakes however aren't a disabled species, they're different by design.



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22 Dec 2012, 4:28 am

Threore wrote:
I think people call it a difference because disorder implies inferiority and they object to AS being seen as inferior to neurotypicality.

As for the head trauma argument, consider this: If a lizard through some accident looses it's legs it clearly is disabled by it. Snakes however aren't a disabled species, they're different by design.


Your analogy breaks down because it assumes that people with other conditions that cause the same symptoms as Aspergers are less functional than people with Aspergers (as a legless lizard bleeding to death would be less functional than a healthy snake). That may or may not be the case. In fact, it's not.

This is derailing OP's thread though. I'm interested in hearing more because this might go further to my theory about physical brain damage (through pre or post natal trauma, mercury/lead/pesticide toxins, or autoimmune attack) to white matter causing Aspergers and related conditions.



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22 Dec 2012, 5:56 am

MisterCosgrove wrote:
All my life, I thought I was an official aspie. I was even officially dx'ed as AS. I began seeing second thoughts to it. I have a co-morbid condition that doesn't usually, but in my case it brought on mild symptoms of ASD. The condition is rare and represents many similarities with cerebral palsy. Can one explain my phenomenon?


What is the name of the condition you have that can bring on AS traits?

Have you been officially told that this condition is the cause of your AS traits?

Could it be possible that even though this condition can rarely case AS traits, you still do have AS?

Just curious as to why you are questioning your DX, whether it's an idea or based on official information/diagnosis.


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22 Dec 2012, 1:36 pm

What is the name of the condition you have that can bring on AS traits?
It's called Joubert Syndrome, it affects that controls the cerrebellum which is the part of the brain that affects balance and co-ordination.It estimatedly affects only 200 people in the world while my case happens to be mild (no mental retardation symptoms, etc.).

Have you been officially told that this condition is the cause of your AS traits?
My mom has made it known to me, as I hear, that JS possibly/possibly not caused the AS traits. I need to clarify that while the symptoms are the same, I wonder if the approach to the cause and treatment of my AS symptoms are different than usual.

Could it be possible that even though this condition can rarely case AS traits, you still do have AS? Yes, it's possible.

Just curious as to why you are questioning your DX, whether it's an idea or based on official information/diagnosis.
To me it's personal.


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22 Dec 2012, 1:44 pm

I'm sorry you have your condition. I've Googled and found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joubert_syndrome and this: http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/joubert/joubert.htm amongst others.

I can't see anywhere it says that it can cause Asperger's traits/behaviours though. It says there can be mental retardation, as well as balance problems and other things, but nothing that seems to directly correlate with Asperger's. From what you say, it is your mum who told you that the condition may have caused AS traits, but it sounds like she made a mistake.

The only way to know for sure is to speak to a Joubert syndrome specialist, as far as I know mental retardation is more applicable to classic autism and not Asperger's. Asperger's means that you have normal to above-normal intelligence, and I can't see anywhere that Joubert's causes socialising issues or sensory issues or other AS traits.

I hope you find the information you are looking for.


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22 Dec 2012, 2:09 pm

Tyri0n wrote:
Your analogy breaks down because it assumes that people with other conditions that cause the same symptoms as Aspergers are less functional than people with Aspergers (as a legless lizard bleeding to death would be less functional than a healthy snake). That may or may not be the case. In fact, it's not.

This is derailing OP's thread though.

I admit it wasn't the greatest analogy. The point I completely failed to make with it was that something being a symptom of a negative thing doesn't make the symptom itself a negative thing. I'll not go on further because, like you said, it's not the thread's topic, but I did want to explain that part of my previous post.