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How important is it to fit in, to you?
Essential 5%  5%  [ 2 ]
Insignificant 30%  30%  [ 11 ]
Irrelevant 49%  49%  [ 18 ]
None of the above 16%  16%  [ 6 ]
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18 Dec 2016, 9:55 pm

How important is it to you? Or would you rather stand out?


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19 Dec 2016, 12:25 am

not very important at all compared to being myself and staying true to my values



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19 Dec 2016, 1:12 am

starkid wrote:
not very important at all compared to being myself and staying true to my values


I admire your outlook, have you always held this conclusion?


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19 Dec 2016, 1:21 am

blackicmenace wrote:
I admire your outlook, have you always held this conclusion?

No. When I was younger, I didn't have much of an outlook at all because I didn't really know how different I was and hadn't yet developed values that are as strong and original as the ones I hold now.

I made a little effort to fit in to avoid the confusing interactions I had when I noticed that I was different, but mostly I was being myself the way young people are themselves: they don't know enough about the world to see clearly how they fit (or don't fit) into it.

As I got a bit older, I saw that I did not have the energy to try to fit in, and that I wasn't very interested in the experiences fitting in would provide. I still tried a little, but I wasn't sure how much effort to put into it and sort of put it on hold while I was occupied with college and maturing.



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19 Dec 2016, 1:23 am

It depends on which context you mean it in now I think about it, most of it doesn't matter because you can still be considered the weird one of a group and they still love you regardless of your differences.

If you mean fitting into a work force in fear of losing your job as an example then I suppose you have to comply and use a persona.

To fit in is to either not be yourself, if you can't be yourself then you're living a lie. Otherwise you fit in because you found people who accept you for who you are.

I figure just be yourself and sod what anyone else thinks because everyone is an individual, everyone is different in some way or other, it's not really important what other people think unless you're a narcissist or sociopath. :wink:


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19 Dec 2016, 2:30 am

Totally unwanted, for me.

I look at normal society and am frankly disgusted by most aspects of it... I've no desire to ever be a part of it. As it is, I kinda feel like I dodged a bullet. Or a giant hail of bullets.



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19 Dec 2016, 3:06 am

If fitting in and lying/acting against one's self are not the same thing, why not?
If I were in a context that doesn't fit my suits, why would I remain there only to try too hard to 'survive' and 'cope', when I could live a life and learn to adapt somewhere else instead? :twisted:

Regardless, it's irrelevant. Not my priority right now. :lol:


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19 Dec 2016, 3:06 am

I will only fit in if I was being targeted and it was bringing me bullying and harassment and abuse like it did when I was a kid. But then I would be miserable and from my personal experience, it still doesn't work because they still see you as being different and don't respect you. You can't force people to accept you and like you. But I would still try if it came down to that again. Someone mentioned about job, I would do that too if it was going to cost me my job.


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19 Dec 2016, 6:11 am

i think my world flag beanie and colored corduroy pants make me stand out amongst other zagreb-folk, regardless of what i do.

i don't like calling attention to myself. i fit in usually because it keeps me out of harm, up until i get bumped into.


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19 Dec 2016, 10:10 am

If fitting in means embracing a popular trend even if it is ridiculous, dull or even negative, then no.

If fitting in means not sticking out like a sore thumb and to be able to talk about everyday, functional activities of life, definitely. It feels great to be able to talk about driving with my friends at work, because I got my license so late in life.



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19 Dec 2016, 11:49 am

I don't want to fit in or stand out. I suppose I do what I need to do to toe the line and keep my job, but I don't go out of my way to fake a persona. Having said that, I don't go out of my way to draw attention to myself either.



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19 Dec 2016, 12:51 pm

If I possessed the acting skills to fit in, I would. But alas, I do not. My mind is ordinarily blank in group environments, so I try my best to avoid all social situations. I'm only comfortable around my parents and niece.


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19 Dec 2016, 1:58 pm

starkid wrote:
blackicmenace wrote:
I admire your outlook, have you always held this conclusion?

No. When I was younger, I didn't have much of an outlook at all because I didn't really know how different I was and hadn't yet developed values that are as strong and original as the ones I hold now.

I made a little effort to fit in to avoid the confusing interactions I had when I noticed that I was different, but mostly I was being myself the way young people are themselves: they don't know enough about the world to see clearly how they fit (or don't fit) into it.

As I got a bit older, I saw that I did not have the energy to try to fit in, and that I wasn't very interested in the experiences fitting in would provide. I still tried a little, but I wasn't sure how much effort to put into it and sort of put it on hold while I was occupied with college and maturing.


I have a similar experience. Once I started to figure out I wasn't like most people I made an attempt to fit in. I used humor as a coping strategy because people seem to really like it. Alas, my humor is not for everyone so I still stuck out as that weird loner drifter guy. When I was young I held a lot of anger and sadness inside me about the situation, mad at the world and everything in it, but that has since mostly faded but the sadness still remains, washing over me from time to time. As I've gotten older I don't waste my time or energy in favor of embracing who and what I am. I withdrew from society to avoid the social anxiety that comes with it and keep to myself only to venture out into the internet to satisfy the human requirement of social interaction. Thank you, and thanks to anyone else that has shared their outlook.


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19 Dec 2016, 2:22 pm

Lunella wrote:
It depends on which context you mean it in now I think about it, most of it doesn't matter because you can still be considered the weird one of a group and they still love you regardless of your differences.

If you mean fitting into a work force in fear of losing your job as an example then I suppose you have to comply and use a persona.

To fit in is to either not be yourself, if you can't be yourself then you're living a lie. Otherwise you fit in because you found people who accept you for who you are.

I figure just be yourself and sod what anyone else thinks because everyone is an individual, everyone is different in some way or other, it's not really important what other people think unless you're a narcissist or sociopath. :wink:


From my observations I would say it's important for NT's to fit in and be part of group activities. Look at the things people will do to avoid being ostracized by group leaders. Look at what groups of people will do to others when social hierarchy comes into play. One day someone could be their perceived equal, now place them in a lower status and they can be treated poorly to fall in line with group activities. People will do truly terrible things to others if you are not part of the tribe.


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19 Dec 2016, 2:29 pm

I don't really seek to fit in, because fitting in in my society would mean compromising my integrity. I will not pretend to be what I am not in order to be like everybody else. I don't like how the majority of people my age are anyway (obsessed with fashion, materialistic, disdainful of academia, unwilling to think deeply, going to crazy parties etc.).


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19 Dec 2016, 3:59 pm

fourcandles wrote:
I don't want to fit in or stand out. I suppose I do what I need to do to toe the line and keep my job, but I don't go out of my way to fake a persona. Having said that, I don't go out of my way to draw attention to myself either.
I agree...because being different which is your true nature is sometimes enough to draw unwanted attention towards yourself....so conforming a little in your workplace would really help a lot...


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