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30 Mar 2011, 5:52 pm

Yesterday someone told me there was a cure for autism, then linked to this blog http://www.cheeseslave.com/2010/08/24/h ... w-podcast/

I haven't done a lot of research, but something smells fishy here. How could this GAPS diet possibly cure autism? I don't buy it.


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30 Mar 2011, 5:57 pm

There is no way to "Cure" autism, it is a disorder (although it seems more like a personality to me :oops:)


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30 Mar 2011, 6:30 pm

I think the author of the blog is making a terrible mistake. Just because some people listed on the blog had success with it doesn't mean its a cure.

What does the diet really do in terms of autism?

I think the blog entry was a promotional gimmick to grab people's attention to sell the book and get people interested in the diet.


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30 Mar 2011, 6:34 pm

The whole thing is caused by your gut?
Basically its all indigestion?


Sounds like nonsense to me.

Humans need some carbs and starch to survive.



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30 Mar 2011, 6:34 pm

ElementalChaos wrote:
There is no way to "Cure" autism, it is a disorder (although it seems more like a personality to me :oops:)


It is a personality. I wonder how NT's would like it if I told them they are disabled because they do not think like me, and proceed with ret*d ways to cure them of their (from my point of view) retardation. If there's any one reason I wish I hadn't of found out about AS it's this. The thought that some people want me to be "cured" is unbearable.



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30 Mar 2011, 6:36 pm

I don't know if there's anything fishy about it but there sure is a lot cheesy and eggy and milky about it. The whole thing looks like a plot cooked up by The American Dairy Association.



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30 Mar 2011, 6:41 pm

Janissy wrote:
I don't know if there's anything fishy about it but there sure is a lot cheesy and eggy and milky about it. The whole thing looks like a plot cooked up by The American Dairy Association.

:lol:
It would be a pretty sad statement on modern medicine if it turned out that autism was just really bad indigestion.



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30 Mar 2011, 6:49 pm

I'm diagnosed with CFS (whatever it may actually be), and have noticed a lot of similar, and even the same "cures" advertised for it and autism. I think that whenever there isn't a known cure for something, people get desperate, and then other people come along to sell them something that sounds good/appealing, like a "detoxification" regimen, and/or a special diet, or mega-vitamins, and on and on. And I don't even think all the people who offer up these "cures" are out to cheat people; some of them likely honestly believe in whatever their "cures" is (though that can get ugly if it doesn't work for you)

But the idea of a diet fixing people up seems to have a strong gut-level thing going for it.
I've seen many variations of the idea for CFS, fibro, autism and more other things than I can remember.



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30 Mar 2011, 6:49 pm

pay me 52 bucks and your autism will go away, scam central if you ask me.



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30 Mar 2011, 7:02 pm

Janissy wrote:
I don't know if there's anything fishy about it but there sure is a lot cheesy and eggy and milky about it. The whole thing looks like a plot cooked up by The American Dairy Association.


Hmmm, I have a feeling you might be right 8O .


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30 Mar 2011, 7:21 pm

Once again, aimed at scared parents of kids. Does any adult want to volunteer to use the program to see how it works? Maybe a diagnosed adult could challenge her claims by offering themselves as a test subject? Bottom line - prove it before asking for the money.



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30 Mar 2011, 7:50 pm

If there was proof, we would realize that this is all a bunch of BS, and then nobody would give them money. It's always all about the money.



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30 Mar 2011, 8:13 pm

Based on the posts, seems you all saw it the same way I did. Nothing more than someone trying to sell something by spreading false claims (or at least bending the truth.)


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30 Mar 2011, 8:45 pm

draelynn wrote:
Once again, aimed at scared parents of kids. Does any adult want to volunteer to use the program to see how it works? Maybe a diagnosed adult could challenge her claims by offering themselves as a test subject? Bottom line - prove it before asking for the money.
We'd need a double-blind placebo-controlled test, not just a single subject. That's how all these people got fooled--they had a single subject, and when that person "got better", they declared it a success without asking whether they would have "gotten better" if they hadn't eaten that diet.

Autistics are prone to learning in jumps and starts and long plateaus. Say that you have a parent who's constantly trying something new on their kid, and they hit one of those developmental jumps. The parent has no clue that the kid was going to get that particular skill right then, so he blames the "improvement" on whatever treatment he happened to be trying at the time.

Placebo effect, folks... You've absolutely got to separate real effects from "I expect improvement therefore I see improvement" and "Mommy says this will help" and a kid that taps his reserves to learn just a little faster...


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30 Mar 2011, 8:47 pm

Callista wrote:
We'd need a double-blind placebo-controlled test, not just a single subject. That's how all these people got fooled--they had a single subject, and when that person "got better", they declared it a success without asking whether they would have "gotten better" if they hadn't eaten that diet.


That was sarcasm on my part... sorry it wasn't clearer..



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30 Mar 2011, 9:00 pm

Apple_in_my_Eye wrote:
I'm diagnosed with CFS (whatever it may actually be), and have noticed a lot of similar, and even the same "cures" advertised for it and autism. I think that whenever there isn't a known cure for something, people get desperate, and then other people come along to sell them something that sounds good/appealing, like a "detoxification" regimen, and/or a special diet, or mega-vitamins, and on and on. And I don't even think all the people who offer up these "cures" are out to cheat people; some of them likely honestly believe in whatever their "cures" is (though that can get ugly if it doesn't work for you)

But the idea of a diet fixing people up seems to have a strong gut-level thing going for it.
I've seen many variations of the idea for CFS, fibro, autism and more other things than I can remember.

I have CFS too, and though I tend to be very skeptical, I have found that a gluten-free diet (which was recommended by a CFS doctor -- she suggested gluten free and dairy free, but I still eat small amounts of dairy) actually helps with my fatigue level. I even notice that when I "cheat" and eat gluten, I feel sort of spacey and heavy. I don't know that it would have any effect for autism traits though. I have not seen any reliable sources that suggest that it does.