Males:Were you ever threatened with rape/harassment charges?
This might not be interesting to everyone, though, the real question this poll could answer is: Are you more likely to be threatened by women with charges if you are on the autistic spectrum? This could very reasonably be the case, because of misinterpreted behavior and social difficulties.
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I'm actually thinking about getting the court involved to get this guy to stop bothering me. He's an aspie and I verbally told him to stop many times but he didn't listen, so I know it's not about misinterpreting his behavior. He also admitted that he was stalking me, so he's not so innocent. He is very emotionally immature, which I know is a problem with a lot of aspies, myself included. My point is that it's not about misinterpretation. It's more of a combination of lack of respect for other people's boundaries and the inability to control emotions.
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No, that's ridiculous, and putting up this poll will show results in Google that will increase stigma. I've been a victim of male-male sexual harassment multiple times because of my autism. Being the victim is not your fault, but being the aggressor is always your fault.
It's simple: don't touch women unless they touch you first or make it obvious that they want it. No always means no. Period. And be mindful of your behavior to make sure you are not stalking anyone. It's not rocket science. Anyone who gets slapped with these charges likely deserves them.
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It's simple: don't touch women unless they touch you first or make it obvious that they want it. And no always means no. Period. And be mindful of your behavior to make sure you are not stalking anyone. It's not rocket science. Anyone who gets slapped with these charges likely deserves them.
Actually many men are falsely accused because the women know most people will think the man deserves to be punished whether he did anything or not. I'm not saying it's the majority of cases but it happens more than people realize.
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It's simple: don't touch women unless they touch you first or make it obvious that they want it. And no always means no. Period. And be mindful of your behavior to make sure you are not stalking anyone. It's not rocket science. Anyone who gets slapped with these charges likely deserves them.
Actually many men are falsely accused because the women know most people will think the man deserves to be punished whether he did anything or not. I'm not saying it's the majority of cases but it happens more than people realize.
No, it doesn't. It's almost always justified. Some men just think that their behavior is justified because they buy into archaic notions of gender and sexual power over women and sometimes over other men. So they claim it's a false accusation. I've been the victim, have reported it, and know exactly how it works. NT and aspie men, unfortunately, often think they are the Darthraki in Game of Thrones.
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It's strange how the man's behavior is often excused because he's perceived as "fragile" while the woman is seen as being too uptight when she complains about it. It's time for men to start acting like adults and then maybe they won't have to beg for female attention.
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It's simple: don't touch women unless they touch you first or make it obvious that they want it. And no always means no. Period. And be mindful of your behavior to make sure you are not stalking anyone. It's not rocket science. Anyone who gets slapped with these charges likely deserves them.
Actually many men are falsely accused because the women know most people will think the man deserves to be punished whether he did anything or not. I'm not saying it's the majority of cases but it happens more than people realize.
No, it doesn't. It's almost always justified. Some men just think that their behavior is justified because they buy into archaic notions of gender and sexual power over women and sometimes over other men. So they claim it's a false accusation. I've been the victim, have reported it, and know exactly how it works. NT and aspie men, unfortunately, often think they are the Darthraki in Game of Thrones.
So you think men are never falsely accused of sexual harassment and rape? If you're going to stereotype 50% of the population at least indicate that you live in saudi arabia or something. In my experience not all men are psychopathic pigs who use women as sex toys and pawns and not all women are shirley temple. I suppose you think everyone in prison deserves to be there also. My sympathy for your personal experiences but they are not indicative of every case.
I've never been accused of sexual harassment or rape but I have been accused of battery by two women in my life. The police came and quickly determined that the women were full of s**t. Nonetheless these women tried to use the law to take away my freedom.
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It's simple: don't touch women unless they touch you first or make it obvious that they want it. And no always means no. Period. And be mindful of your behavior to make sure you are not stalking anyone. It's not rocket science. Anyone who gets slapped with these charges likely deserves them.
Actually many men are falsely accused because the women know most people will think the man deserves to be punished whether he did anything or not. I'm not saying it's the majority of cases but it happens more than people realize.
No, it doesn't. It's almost always justified. Some men just think that their behavior is justified because they buy into archaic notions of gender and sexual power over women and sometimes over other men. So they claim it's a false accusation. I've been the victim, have reported it, and know exactly how it works. NT and aspie men, unfortunately, often think they are the Darthraki in Game of Thrones.
So you think men are never falsely accused of sexual harassment and rape? If you're going to stereotype 50% of the population at least indicate that you live in saudi arabia or something. In my experience not all men are psychopathic pigs who use women as sex toys and pawns and not all women are shirley temple. I suppose you think everyone in prison deserves to be there also. My sympathy for your personal experiences but they are not indicative of every case.
I've never been accused of sexual harassment or rape but I have been accused of battery by two women in my life. The police came and quickly determined that the women were full of sh**. Nonetheless these women tried to use the law to take away my freedom.
1. I AM a man, not a woman. Male-on-male sexual harassment is a serious problem--especially for those on the spectrum, because are more vulnerable and less gender-conforming-- that typically goes unreported. So this is not just a man vs. woman debate.
2. Obviously I don't think all men were that way because I am definitely not.
3. I'm not saying they never are, but in the cases with which I'm familiar where the man claimed the accusation was false, he did not deny the conduct but only denied that it was harassment. Some men think that only actual rape is a crime and everything up to that is ok. This is not true.
4. I'm not familiar with your case, so I can't speak to it. But any unwanted touching, however slight, is a criminal offense.
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It's strange how the man's behavior is often excused because he's perceived as "fragile" while the woman is seen as being too uptight when she complains about it. It's time for men to start acting like adults and then maybe they won't have to beg for female attention.
What are you talking about? I specifically said that false accusations don't represent most cases. If you feel that women never falsely accuse men of sexual harassment and rape just say so and spare my the male bashing rant.
It's simple: don't touch women unless they touch you first or make it obvious that they want it. And no always means no. Period. And be mindful of your behavior to make sure you are not stalking anyone. It's not rocket science. Anyone who gets slapped with these charges likely deserves them.
Actually many men are falsely accused because the women know most people will think the man deserves to be punished whether he did anything or not. I'm not saying it's the majority of cases but it happens more than people realize.
No, it doesn't. It's almost always justified. Some men just think that their behavior is justified because they buy into archaic notions of gender and sexual power over women and sometimes over other men. So they claim it's a false accusation. I've been the victim, have reported it, and know exactly how it works. NT and aspie men, unfortunately, often think they are the Darthraki in Game of Thrones.
So you think men are never falsely accused of sexual harassment and rape? If you're going to stereotype 50% of the population at least indicate that you live in saudi arabia or something. In my experience not all men are psychopathic pigs who use women as sex toys and pawns and not all women are shirley temple. I suppose you think everyone in prison deserves to be there also. My sympathy for your personal experiences but they are not indicative of every case.
I've never been accused of sexual harassment or rape but I have been accused of battery by two women in my life. The police came and quickly determined that the women were full of sh**. Nonetheless these women tried to use the law to take away my freedom.
1. I AM a man, not a woman. Male-on-male sexual harassment is a serious problem--especially for those on the spectrum, because are more vulnerable and less gender-conforming-- that typically goes unreported. So this is not just a man vs. woman debate.
2. Obviously I don't think all men were that way because I am definitely not.
3. I'm not saying they never are, but in the cases with which I'm familiar where the man claimed the accusation was false, he did not deny the conduct but only denied that it was harassment. Some men think that only actual rape is a crime and everything up to that is ok. This is not true.
4. I'm not familiar with your case, so I can't speak to it. But any unwanted touching, however slight, is a criminal offense.
Thanks for editing that part about your 'opinion being 10x more valuable', I almost pissed myself laughing.
It's strange how the man's behavior is often excused because he's perceived as "fragile" while the woman is seen as being too uptight when she complains about it. It's time for men to start acting like adults and then maybe they won't have to beg for female attention.
What are you talking about? I specifically said that false accusations don't represent most cases. If you feel that women never falsely accuse men of sexual harassment and rape just say so and spare my the male bashing rant.
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It's strange how the man's behavior is often excused because he's perceived as "fragile" while the woman is seen as being too uptight when she complains about it. It's time for men to start acting like adults and then maybe they won't have to beg for female attention.
What are you talking about? I specifically said that false accusations don't represent most cases. If you feel that women never falsely accuse men of sexual harassment and rape just say so and spare my the male bashing rant.
You are so stuck on male hating there's no having a conversation with you. Making someone uncomfortable is a crime? Well run out and jail all the autistic kids that have had a melt down in public and made people uncomfortable.
In one case the woman stole my guitar and amplifier and threw flower pots at me then called the police and said I threw the flower pots at her.
In the other case the woman tried to stab me with a butcher knife then told the police I beat her.
In both cases there were witnesses that made statements in my defense. But thank you for assuming that I made the women "uncomfortable at some point".
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If false accusation don't represent the majority of cases, why put so much emphasis on the fact that false accusations happen?
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It's strange how the man's behavior is often excused because he's perceived as "fragile" while the woman is seen as being too uptight when she complains about it. It's time for men to start acting like adults and then maybe they won't have to beg for female attention.
What are you talking about? I specifically said that false accusations don't represent most cases. If you feel that women never falsely accuse men of sexual harassment and rape just say so and spare my the male bashing rant.
You are so stuck on male hating there's no having a conversation with you. Making someone uncomfortable is a crime? Well run out and jail all the autistic kids that have had a melt down in public and made people uncomfortable.
In one case the woman stole my guitar and amplifier and threw flower pots at me then called the police and said I threw the flower pots at her.
In the other case the woman tried to stab me with a butcher knife then told the police I beat her.
In both cases there were witnesses that made statements in my defense. But thank you for assuming that I made the women "uncomfortable at some point".
Did I ever write that you personally were making someone uncomfortable? I explicitly said that "I am not familiar with your case." Did you see that sentence? I'm sorry women are always so mean to you.
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If false accusation don't represent the majority of cases, why put so much emphasis on the fact that false accusations happen?
Because the question was, "Are you more likely to be threatened by women with charges if you are on the autistic spectrum? This could very reasonably be the case, because of misinterpreted behavior and social difficulties."
Tyrion used this opportunity to say that anyone who had the charges slapped on them probably deserved it. I was just pointing out that sometimes men are falsly accused sometimes. Why put so much emphasis on men being pigs?
If you'd like to read the entire thread it's all there, or I can keep giving you the Cliffs Notes version.
