Agreeing with your obsessions and intrusive thoughts

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I have OCD and I'm not sure if what I've been experiencing is part of my disorder. An increase of my medication has helped calm the obsessions but I still agree with them even though they're not there. I remember what they were and I still agree with them.

An intrusive thought is an unwanted thought but I have been having obsessions that I agree with.

It's different from an intrusive thought of saying something offensive to someone. When I or anyone else with OCD has such a thought we don't act on it because it's in conflict with our true values.

When I have an intrusive thought about wanting to stay up until I go crazy from sleep loss it is not unwanted. I agree with it. I also have no objection to going off my medication when I have an intrusive urge to do so. I've tried doing both of those things but my parents have intervened in each case.

I know I should disagree with these thoughts but I don't. Most people would find these thoughts unwanted and not want to act on them. I don't see any problems with them. It doesn't seem like a bad idea to pull consecutive "all-nighters". It doesn't seem like a bad idea to come off my medication or putting stuff into my body that I know I shouldn't. It doesn't seem like a bad idea to take 2000+ mg of caffeine all at once.

I've done some ridiculous things and some not so ridiculous things that I still wouldn't have done a year ago. My caffeine intake before my parents found my pills and made me throw them out was insane. You would've probably thought I was out of my mind or that I thought the pills were candy or something.

I stole Ritalin pills from my brother and snorted them but I made sure not to take so many that there was a noticable shortage.

I pulled two consecutive all-nighters before my parents intervened and then when they let their guard down I pulled another all-nighter but my parents caught on even faster and forced me to take my meds that make me drowsy. If they weren't here I would've gone crazy from sleep loss by now and that is what I wanted. They frustrate me. They're trying to protect me but I find it restrictive.



I agree with the obsessions I was having. My SSRI dosage has increased and since I've had it in my system the obsessions have weakened but I still remember what they were and I still agree with them. I still want to come off my medication and stay awake for days until my brain stops working properly. It's not an overwhelmingly urgent obsession anymore. I have the self-control to wait until I'm out of the house that way my parents don't have to know or be affected. Before I felt so hyper-fixated that I couldn't resist at all. I still agree with the obsessions but the heat is gone.



What does it mean when you agree with your obsessions? Does it mean they are more AS related? Can it still be OCD if you agree with it?

I don't find that OCD is in any way about agreeing or disagreeing with the obsession. Itis simply a primal urge to do stuff. Of course we can develop perspectives on our obsessive behaviours but these perspectives are merely incidental. Of course, OCD folk must work hard on OCDs that are contrary to their moral values but I don't think our intrinsic views on our behaviours explains why we have them or is necessarily going to determine if we have the urge to carry out actions obsessively.

I recommend separating moral issues from the physiological urge. The urge that is OCD will happen. The moral implications are incidental. If the moral outcomes are unwanted, they are part of the general problem that OCD people deal with. I think what I am trying to say is OCD doesn't make you intrinsically bad or good just as bad eyesight doesn't make you a bad or good person.

I thought people with OCD usually have a fear of something that compels them to do a certain action to prevent that feared thing from happening.

I don't know what's compelling you to lack sleep. If you don't lack sleep, what feared event will happen?

In my case, I have to define in my head in very clear logical expressions those problems that are stressing me out. I'm compelled to do that because I feel if don't do it, then, I would never be able to get out of the problems or the problems will get worse. I sometimes can't stop doing it. I always know the obsessions and compulsions are rather unrealistic or even ridiculous, but still I can't stop them. That's why OCD is so stressful - the inability to stop doing what I know is ridiculous.

I think there can be considerable overlap between OCD and healthy, productive obsessions.

When I was seeing a psychiatrist way back when I was twenty-six, I tried to explain to him that my OCD regarding 'health' and feared guilt and self-blame if I didn't do certain 'precautions' felt a lot like my positive interests in philosophy.

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Please be a little careful with caffeine. It's real medicine of course it is, and it's probably best to come down off it in stages.

I like sleep phenomenon. I've even experimented a little with lucid dreaming, which I have found to be a subtle phenomenon but still pretty neat. And instead of making it happen, I have found that it is very much the zen art of allowing it to happen.

When I'm sleep deprived, I sometimes feel like the air is thicker. I also feel more in the moment and sometimes more connected to other people. And if I can get to the point where I can dance it, where I tell myself it's okay to go ahead and go to sleep, it's also okay to push it a little more, that can be a sweet place to be.

And there's also the whole overlay of the circadian clock, the mid-morning energy upswing which slowly fades away to the afternoon lull, and the mid evening energy upswing which slowly fades away to the early am lull.

sleep deprivation can cause diabetes, there ya go obsession fixed with another obsession.

That's the way I do it and I have OCD. I just replace the harmful obsession with another obsession.

And don't steal prescription medication from people, they will think your the scum of the earth.

2000mg of caffine could lead to a hearty attack, even in healthy people. Please limit your caffine intake.

Hopefully you grow out of this stage of experimenting quickly.