Seeing NTs who have the same issues as us

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Has anyone here ever seen NTs online and in real life face the same issues we face and do you see it all the time?

I have seen NTs get misunderstood online, take things literal, also go into too much detail and other readers get confused, an NT asking a question and people get all offended and the thread turns into a trainwreck, saying something and other people take it out of context or people putting words in their mouths, and these are the things I have seen some members talk about here regarding their ASD because they get misunderstood due to their social issues and communication problems. But I seem to see it all the time in lot of people, ASD or not. I have also heard everyone goes through an aspie thing from time to time, it's how many symptoms you have and how often you experience it and how it impacts your life while for the rest of the world, it's only now and then. But to me it seems like I see it all the time and then I feel so normal and think maybe I am not so different after all and then I come on here and say "I have seen it happen with NTs" "That happens with Nts too." Plus I see black and white thinking in everyone and they all come off as stupid when they do it. I guess different people make it seem like everyone has AS because they stand out more and I see it so it seems like lot of people face the same issues all the time we face. Does it seem this way to anyone else?

Yes, I see what you describe on forums all the time.

How do you know for sure anyone on the Internet is Neurotypical? That said I am sure NT's have some of the same issues we experience. I think the difference is some of that is more consistent with people on the spectrum than Neurotpicals. While an NT can take something too literally or be misunderstood they don't consistantly have trouble with taking things too literally for instance.

I think all 'symptoms' of mental disorders are things everyone can experiance from time to time for the most part, but what makes something considered a mental disorder/condition is when someone struggles with it on a consistant basis to a more frequent degree than most. For instance everyone feels down and depressed sometimes, not everyone suffers from Major Depression. An NT can be overwhelmed and maybe have a bit of 'meltdown' but that is likely to be under extreme stress.......it seems many on the spectrum can be effected that way under less stress than a neurotypical.

I've always thought online communication is similar to how people on the spectrum experience the world. There's no body language involved, no subtle (yet intricate) micro-interactions, and everyone is masked by their anonymity, allowing them to feel free of the chains of social norms.

That said, I think one of the biggest things that sets apart from NTs are the stims and sensory stuff.

Amen. I agree with it all.

Yesterday someone started a thread (poll included) that was a Theory of Mind train-wreck. The OP was NT.

I suppose there are a lot of people out there like me who are not diagnosable but who aren't exactly NT either. Prior to my kids' diagnoses, I was clueless. I made lots of blunders on forums before my daughter was diagnosed. Looking back, now I would have the skills to probably avert a lot of the problems I had, but at the time I had no idea I was part of the problem, so I just plunged forward. Recognizing why it happened now gives me some measure of control. I am not perfect, by any means, but I do try to thwart the most irritating of my quirks as often as I can muster up the strength!

I do think it is silly to think that things that happen to people on the spectrum never happen to NTs. I think of course they do. It's just that I don't think they necessarily "live" there, ykwim?

The fine art of communication, or rather manners, have been lost wherever you go...online or otherwise.

I can remember once playing some music in the daytime and a neighbour knocked on the door. I opened the door and got:

"Oi turn the f*****g music down or I will f*****g hit you"

Well all she had to do was ask....apparently she worked night shifts and I didn't know. Fine but could she just not have said:

"Excuse me, I work night shifts and I'm trying to sleep, would you mind turning the music down please?"

I would have been even happier to turn it down for her is she had used the second approach. I mean how hard would it be?

Her approach indicates a lack of respect.

Its the same online and off sometimes.

Yes, but not ALL THE TIME, EVERY DAY and not to same degree.

I've been thinking about this a lot recently. I've had lots of conversations with NT people about our weird traits and I've realised that they exaggerate things. If they misinterpret a conversation once, it suddenly becomes one of their traits and they're like 'I know exactly what that feels like to not get conversations'.

Also I've found that when I notice a few habits I have that NT people do it gives me a false sense of security that all my habits are normal. So quite often I've told people things I thought were normal habits which have turned out to be completely abnormal.

But generally I agree with what everyone else seems to be saying in that NTs live the majority of their lives normally and have aspie moments, where as people on the AS spectrum live feeling as outsiders and have moments of feeling normal.

At the moment I'm not sure whether I'm NT or more AS because these days I spend an increasing amount of time feeling normal.

Not really.

My friend is like that.
She has some AS-like traits (she has issues in social situations, sometimes when asked to speak she can't verbalize her thoughts correctly, she speaks in a very formal way, and some other traits), but she developed them when she was 11-12 (exept the formal speech), so it can't be true AS.
But, she can understand every facial expression, even the ones most NT people I met can't understand, she understands body language better than most people and she automatically connects with people without any issue, therefore I don't think she has AS, she probably has social phobia.