Thought provoking...autistic "Dreamweavers"
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I just read this on a forum, and it touched me, it is talking about the potential of autism and the special talents, rather than it being a disability:
Among the speakers was Rupert Isaacson, author of the wonderful book “The Horse Boy” http://www.horseboyfoundation.org/book.php
The Horse Boy is a story of how the father of an autistic boy takes his son all the way to see the shaman of the Raindeer Tribe in Mongolia in the hope that his son may be “healed.” Rupert had long recognised the benefits of shamanic healing (yay!) and he had also seen how well his son Rowan responded to his neighbour’s horse, Betsy. Much of the trip was made on horseback, which is massive feat considering that even taking his son to the supermarket had become a nightmare for Rupert and his wife.
Rupert said that in his opinion, clues to an autistic child’s gifts could be found in their “stimming” – the repetitive physical movements that autistic children often make (stimming is short for “self stimulation”). For example, Rupert had a child on one of his Horse Boy camps who flatly refused to get on a horse; instead he just wanted to play with the water in a pond. Rupert allowed this and some clever soul watched over the child. The boy appeared to be slapping the water, gathering it up somehow, then letting it go, then he would fling his arms up into the air, only to then go back to rapidly scooping up water. He constantly repeated this process. To the onlooker, it looked like madness. But the man that was watching over this child took photos, and amazingly, the photos actually captured images of water sculptures that the child was making. He was actually shaping the water into images – of dolphins and horses for example, and when he created a pleasing image, he would fling his arms back in happiness, then he repeated the process all over again.
Rather than seeing autistic children as damaged and in need of healing, Rupert believes they are very special, so special in fact that he calls them “Dreamweavers,” as Rowan’s condition led Rupert to achieve many of his dreams. Rupert’s views on stimming are that they are a method of creation, which are intentional. Either they clear energy – for example shaking hands around the middle clear energy channels within the child’s energy body, or they create a vibrational resonance, an energy, that is needed for some reason. Therefore, when a child arranges, say, sticks in a particular pattern, they are creating an energetic frequency, which either they themselves, their parents or the world at large needs for some reason.
Rupert said that autistic children have a greater link to spirit than non-autistic children, and in fact most have shamanic tendencies. Rowan is obsessed with animals, particularly endangered species for example. We heard a story from another speaker, Suzy Miller, (author of the book Awesomism http://www.awesomism.net/ ), about a little girl who loved collecting anything to do with birds, and then was seen in front of a hedge at school talking to a hummingbird which was hovering right in front of her –for enough time as it took the whole playground to gather around her. Rather than damaged, Rupert asked us to perceive autistic children as unique, special and beautiful, and to understand that they have often come to heal their parents – and quite possibly the world, rather than needing healing themselves.
One of the struggles Rupert had with Rowan was his physical incontinence. Until his meeting with the shaman, Rowan regularly soiled himself, which put his parents under huge strain and worry. My sense is that he had such problems as he was largely unaware he even had a body that defecated. Because autistic kids are more spiritually aware and are concerned with the bigger picture, going to the toilet is something that just does not appear on their radar. For spirits, as we know, do not have bodies, and do not have to cope with bodily things.
This view was met by Suzy Miller who refused to call children autistic, instead referring to them as “children diagnosed with autism.” She believed that such children only incarnated into their bodies as far as their hearts. (A professor of psychology told me recently that it takes even “normal” children up to age seven to fully incarnate into their bodies). So an autistic child does not even fully inhabit their body!
Suzy was an amazing lady who had developed a psychic link to the autistic non-verbal children she often worked with in her role as a speech therapist. One child in particular, a four year old, taught her telepathically how to heal him - and other children! She asked him why so many autistic children were coming in now and was told by this tiny tot that they were coming in answer to our request for a new type of human, as we had done quite a good job of stuffing the world up ourselves. How amazing is that??
She backed up Rupert’s suggestion that parents of autistic children should pay close attention to the things that their children do. For example she told us one boy, Tommy, played music over and over, driving his parents almost mad. One day his mother realised that there were messages to her in the music he was playing, answers in the songs to her own questions! Tommy now has his own Facebook page and in return for your details will provide you with a song which will speak to your heart. How beautiful is that?
If you are a parent with an autistic child then I strongly recommend both the books mentioned above.
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That is an absolutely soul-touching article. Much sense can be made out of making sense of "stimming" and the energy it releases.
This is somewhat reminiscent of Crystal Child theory of autism.
http://www.starchildren.info/crystal.html
http://byregion.net/articles-healers/Crystal_Children.html
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This is somewhat reminiscent of Crystal Child theory of autism.
http://byregion.net/articles-healers/Crystal_Children.html
Sounds like me on many counts, although I'm definitely an indigo.
"When a Crystal looks at you, you feel as if they have penetrated your very soul. " is something that people tell me all the time..
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My cousin is a New Age "persoN" (not sure how to term and don't want to offend and i don't know enough data to judge) she said i was an Indigo child in the early 90s.
What if since humans are always evolving, Autistics are doubling in number, maybe the their evolving more than NTs.... i don't know...
I do know that when i was young in the 80s i had missed the non-existing knowledge that is now and had been suggested a theraputic horseback riding program for Autistic children by my special ed teacher.
That teacher, Karen Cody, had suggested one of the best things ever for me. The theraputic horse back riding helped a lot. I don't think i'd be here today if not for that program. I was in the program 8 years.
Theraputic horseback riding is always good!
Is this one of those feel-good threads where anyone who disagrees is slammed?
Regardless, I find all this indigo children stuff very disconcerting. It seems like narcissistic, ego-stroking nonsense. It's kind of like modern-day mythology, where elaborate stories of being special and chosen and part of cosmic destiny are used to explain or justify something.
Having Asperger's/autism means, by definition, that a person will feel very different from those around him. But convincing oneself into thinking he's a special indigo child seems like a form of self-delusion.
Accept and embrace your autism. Don't try to fit yourself into a New Age hole to feel better about yourself. Those are my thoughts. Do you really need to believe this stuff to feel good about yourself?
Regardless, I find all this indigo children stuff very disconcerting. It seems like narcissistic, ego-stroking nonsense. It's kind of like modern-day mythology, where elaborate stories of being special and chosen and part of cosmic destiny are used to explain or justify something.
Having Asperger's/autism means, by definition, that a person will feel very different from those around him. But convincing oneself into thinking he's a special indigo child seems like a form of self-delusion.
Accept and embrace your autism. Don't try to fit yourself into a New Age hole to feel better about yourself. Those are my thoughts. Do you really need to believe this stuff to feel good about yourself?
I think you are referring to "Star seeds"... most definitions of Indigo children just typecast them as peaceful, intelligent and aspie-like.
The fact that different distinctions are being made seems like some people are really, really deep into this bunk.
What I'm saying is, why not be an Aspie? Why need the label of "indigo child" in the first place? And from what I have read, there seems to be a self-entitlement among those who believe themselves indigo, and a sense of being special and chosen. "Ooh, I'm special, yes, that's why I'm different than others. I'm smart and peaceful and the next step...it's my spiritual path."
It seems to self-aggrandizing.
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What if accepting and embracing your autism is accepting and embracing your place in the world as an Indigo? Not because some choose to believe it, but what if that's really the way it is? What if we're all here to create a better balance between people, plants, animals & the planet we all live on by going about our non-greedy and long term sustainable ways while teaching NT's new paradigms in economics, science, engineering, etc that they're going to require to learn asap if we're to survive as a species on this planet that NT rule has brought to the brink of destruction?
Just sayin' what if..
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The fact that different distinctions are being made seems like some people are really, really deep into this bunk.
What I'm saying is, why not be an Aspie? Why need the label of "indigo child" in the first place? And from what I have read, there seems to be a self-entitlement among those who believe themselves indigo, and a sense of being special and chosen. "Ooh, I'm special, yes, that's why I'm different than others. I'm smart and peaceful and the next step...it's my spiritual path."
It seems to self-aggrandizing.
Are you atheist? I don't see the big deal.. I'm agnostic, myself. If they're right they're right and if they're wrong then they're wrong. My only problems with religions other than the fact that they play with my life by affecting public opinion is when they try to push their beliefs on me.
You could try to tell me I don't have a soul but I don't see any harm in someone drawing comfort from the fact that they believe the existence of their soul has a supernatural aspect to it. There are better things than being right, I know that for a fact.... And, I don't know really but I do think there's a supernatural aspect to everyone's soul.
Any way, we could say that genetically maybe humans have dna that responds to environmental changes in such a way that under certain conditions a specific type of child be born. Like, for gays a theory is that we are intended to be aunts and uncles. In truth a large amount of us are gay because of our mother's hormones in the womb and we've found that the more children a woman has the more likely that a child would be gay. So child 7 out of 7 has a higher chance of being gay than 2 out of 7. Could aunts/uncles with minimal chances of offspring i.e. gays be programmed into our dna? So maybe then, there's dna that responds to certain environmental factors that creates a kid with AS with a purpose? Do you know?
I personally think it's totally reasonable to believe the universe not only is made of energy (considering the equation Energy equals Mass times Centimeters squared) but that all energy broadcasts at different frequencies.
EDIT: Just to be clear Gays and Lesbians aren't made just because of the condition of the womb environment. Genetics and other key environmental factors come into play.
Just sayin' what if..
I think Aspies have great potential. I don't thinking convincing ourselves it's because we were preselected in "the astral realm" is healthy. In fact, it's almost like an excuse to justify our Aspie-ness. "I'm this way because I am part of the great spiritual awakening of human consciousness, written in the stars..." etc. Why do you need such justification for your Aspiness? And do you really believe Asperger's is new to the past few generations?
No, I'm more agnostic. But I believe if God exists, no human is more "godly" than another. I think the indigo child phenomenon plays too much into emotion and a sense of feeling special in light of all the unhappiness one has faced in life. Plus, most of the stuff I've read makes them out to be self-entitled brats.
People, if there's a benefit to having Asperger's, it's a greater ability to be impervious to this crap moreso than our NT counterparts. Have some self-respect.
Lol, umm... Don't tell me what to do.
I know you're joking around, but in fairness, that was a general statement. I don't know if you consider yourself an "indigo child," but you don't list yourself as having Asperger's, so by exclusion the statement wasn't meant for you.
Anyway, I felt a counter-opinion was needed in this thread, and I'm glad I offered mine, even if people disagree or don't like it.
