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02 Mar 2007, 5:05 pm

What remedies can help Autistic people with memory, focus and clarity?

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02 Mar 2007, 6:28 pm

Meditation

You can suck back vitamin C until the cows come home but if any supplements did anything amazingly, we'd have known about it ages ago. I suggest meditation as is drastically improves clarity, improves focus, and helps memory, amoung some things (the list is long). Might lead to peace on this planet but with all the distractions and shiney objects, people get lost.

As well, learning a new language or an instrument will help improve focus and memory. Reading will help. Learning anything "new" or "challenging" will help.

I think of meditation as "pumping iron" only instead of your "biceps" you're working the "brain." That part of the body most people neglect but which controls all :idea:

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02 Mar 2007, 7:56 pm

In regards to my PM,

I was rushing when I wrote my response to you and I dont think it was all that clear. Chicken soup for the soul books are helpful. I have a book called "Guide to meditation" which is written by the same person which describes techniques and what have you's.

They recommend you learn meditation from an instructor as you may run into some obstacles.

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02 Mar 2007, 8:03 pm

Did you have an instructor?

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02 Mar 2007, 8:15 pm

There really isn't any remedies that help with memory. That's really your problem.
Sorry if that's morbid, but those herbs out there? They don't really do anything.

The thing that can make you better at games? Fish. Serious.

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02 Mar 2007, 10:40 pm

St33med wrote:

That is your own opinion.

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02 Mar 2007, 10:55 pm

dgd1788 wrote:

What remedies can help Autistic people with memory, focus and clarity?

Focus if it is defined as increasing beta brain waves then stimulants are the only real
tool. Caffeine is effective but it has lots of side effects and builds rapid tolerance. The
same can be said for ephedrine or pseudo-ephedrine. You can obtain pseudo-ephedrine by showing ID and signing for it at the pharmacy in the US. Nicotine which can be taken in the form of skin patches can help to but its a powerful vasoconstrictor and should be avoided if you have high blood pressure.

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02 Mar 2007, 11:02 pm

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What remedies can help Autistic people with memory, focus and clarity?

These are organic substances, not herbal remedies.

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02 Mar 2007, 11:09 pm

dgd1788 wrote:

TheMachine1 wrote:

dgd1788 wrote:

What remedies can help Autistic people with memory, focus and clarity?

These are organic substances, not herbal remedies.

Well technically those are all herbal extracts. Though the pseudoephedrine is more economically made from non-plant sources today.

I take 6 or more grams of omega-3 rich fish oil daily. There are a few studies suggesting it might improve ADHD symptoms in a percent of users.

I found this link while trying to confirm if ginkgo was proven to aid memory.

http://health.ivillage.com/holistic/hhe ... m2,00.html

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02 Mar 2007, 11:50 pm

Hypnotism and meditation!

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03 Mar 2007, 1:19 am

St33med,

Rainbow troute used to be one of my FAVORITE foods! Fish helps, but I never tried to see how much.

dgd1788,

I hate to say it, but so far I have only found the following to help:

1. Acetylcarnitine(FACT)(Works by facilitating creation of acetylcoline)
2. Tyrosine(FACT)(Works by facilitating needed neurotransmitters)
3. Puzzles(FACT)(Works by using memory and problem solving skills)
4. IMAGERY(FACT)(Works by using memory)
5. chunk things into groups of 7 or less, and wait about 10 minutes before repeating.(Especially referred to for autistics/aspies)(Works by allowing the hippocampus to casually do its work)

They've done studies. **I** tried it. I think I cut like 30 years of age related deficits off my memory! If I can cut another 8-9 years off, WATCH OUT! 8-) Of course, it is only GOOD now. If I cut off 8-9 years, it would be GREAT! Almost the equal of some of the best here.

Just an example? I used to have to TRY to learn new passwords. NOW they are often just KNOWN! I used to have trouble learning LOTS of new words for more than a few minutes. NOW, I can easily learn them for like a day. Eventually they all stick.

I'm trying other stuff also.

BTW for puzzles, "simple sudoku" is a good and FREE program. In the simple mode with hints, etc... it is CHILDS PLAY, but try to avoid that. In extreme mode with NO hints it is GREAT. Turn on the timer and score, and try to beat yourself.

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03 Mar 2007, 11:07 am

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Did you have an instructor?

No, but I did/do extensive research into it as its almost an "obsession" of mine. Go that route, if you're comfortable.

I read, on one site, the reason its recommended is that some 'thoughts' may surface that may make you actually feel worse then you are. The instructor would help you get through that time (I went through one and it was ROUGH). Maybe you don't have much repressed? If you're depressed, you may become a bit more depressed as you face what it IS making you so upset.

For me, things like 'how I've been alone 25 years' came up, a past "relationship" I didnt want to say "bye" to came up, etc. I was VERY alone, during this time, and I'm not sure how people couldn't see how much pain I was in - I had no one and *I* knew it and I FACED it. It was very VERY upsetting but for some reason (this was right before christmas) I just walked right out of it (roughly around my birthday, 10 days or so after christmas). It took some time to face my troubles and my problems but I did. Right now, not even 'tax' season could bring me down. I wouldnt trade this past 1-2 years for anything (alopecia universalis set me down all this 'soul' searching which went from a discovery of aspergers (which answered a lot), to psychology, to philosophy, to spirituality, to meditation).

I take to meditation like one of those round pegs :wink:

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03 Mar 2007, 11:16 am

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St33med wrote:

That is your own opinion.

Well, the thing is, if there were a ton of remedies, we wouldn't need to be discussing "Alzeheimers" because those same 'remedies' would help prevent that (oddly enough, if you want to get into it, http://www.newstarget.com/005456.html (linked from the alzeheimers website)

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03 Mar 2007, 11:22 am

TheMachine1 wrote:

dgd1788 wrote:

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dgd1788 wrote:

What remedies can help Autistic people with memory, focus and clarity?

These are organic substances, not herbal remedies.

Ginko biloba DOES help memory, but this is apparantly by increasing bloodflow. There are a few similar ones as well.

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03 Mar 2007, 1:58 pm

ive been on a gluten free diet for about a month now and its really helped, also i drink alot of green tea and coffee

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04 Mar 2007, 4:08 pm

Ginkgo was not found to aid memory in this study in people over 60.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer ... query_hl=1

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Ginkgo for memory enhancement: a randomized controlled trial.

Solomon PR, Adams F, Silver A, Zimmer J, DeVeaux R.

Bronfman Science Center, Williams College, 33 Hoxsey St, Williamstown, MA 01267, USA. psolomon@williams.edu

CONTEXT: Several over-the-counter treatments are marketed as having the ability to improve memory, attention, and related cognitive functions in as little as 4 weeks. These claims, however, are generally not supported by well-controlled clinical studies. OBJECTIVE: To evaluate whether ginkgo, an over-the-counter agent marketed as enhancing memory, improves memory in elderly adults as measured by objective neuropsychological tests and subjective ratings. DESIGN: Six-week randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled, parallel-group trial. SETTING AND PARTICIPANTS: Community-dwelling volunteer men (n = 98 ) and women (n = 132) older than 60 years with Mini-Mental State Examination scores greater than 26 and in generally good health were recruited by a US academic center via newspaper advertisements and enrolled over a 26-month period from July 1996 to September 1998. INTERVENTION: Participants were randomly assigned to receive ginkgo, 40 mg 3 times per day (n = 115), or matching placebo (n = 115). MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: Standardized neuropsychological tests of verbal and nonverbal learning and memory, attention and concentration, naming and expressive language, participant self-report on a memory questionnaire, and caregiver clinical global impression of change as completed by a companion. RESULTS: Two hundred three participants (88%) completed the protocol. Analysis of the modified intent-to-treat population (all 219 participants returning for evaluation) indicated that there were no significant differences between treatment groups on any outcome measure. Analysis of the fully evaluable population (the 203 who complied with treatment and returned for evaluation) also indicated no significant differences for any outcome measure. CONCLUSIONS: The results of this 6-week study indicate that ginkgo did not facilitate performance on standard neuropsychological tests of learning, memory, attention, and concentration or naming and verbal fluency in elderly adults without cognitive impairment. The ginkgo group also did not differ from the control group in terms of self-reported memory function or global rating by spouses, friends, and relatives. These data suggest that when taken following the manufacturer's instructions, ginkgo provides no measurable benefit in memory or related cognitive function to adults with healthy cognitive function.

Publication Types:
Clinical Trial
Randomized Controlled Trial
Research Support, Non-U.S. Gov't
Research Support, U.S. Gov't, P.H.S.

PMID: 12186600 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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