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29 Mar 2013, 6:29 am

As an Aspie, I have a great imagination and I am a visual learner. Now for the background... I went to my minster about my problems as a teen and he told me my problems with my obsession of hell are demonic. Yes, that is bleeping nuts! Anyway, now that I am older and have educated myself in Science and Religion. I do not believe in demons, angels, or in the existence of Hell. However, when something life-threaten happens to me like I had a allergic reaction to peanuts that nearly killed me, all those images of hell came back to me. So my fears from the reaction to peanuts are now compounded by images of hell. Even though I do not understand why anyone could believe in hell after all the logical arguments that are made against its existence, the fears come back during high stress times in my life. Think of it like watching the movie "ChainSaw Massacres." You know none of it is real. Yet you may be bothered for days about what you saw.
My thoughts come flooding back about hell. I wonder, if I doubt myself and think that my knowledge is wrong even though thinking that way is not logical. Or maybe by my daily routine being interrupted by such a high degree my thoughts start to obsess about death and hell. Or maybe it is like PTSD, where you have flash backs. Anyway, I have talked to my psychologist about it. I know there is a way to relieve this stress for good, but I need logical advice on how to do that. So please could anyone help me? Thoughts, books to read, or anything would be much appreciated. :scratch:


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29 Mar 2013, 6:44 am

I'm merely thinking out loud, as I know approximately jack s**t about any of this, but: (Well, ok, that's not entirely true - the following is based on knowing a little bit about some of this from reading books that included sections on visualization and reprogramming your own thoughts/mind etc - I've just modified it quite a bit to your situation & am just thinking out loud as to whether it would work or not.)

It seems you're memory recall of hellish imagery is triggered by life/death fear. What if you replace the images in the "database," with something else? Whether you imagine/visualize it, or literally print out flashcards of images or w/e, I wonder what would happen if you put yourself into a life/death fear frame of mind while subjecting yourself to different, more positive imagery.. with enough repetition, you might be able to rewrite the images in the "database," that get auto-recalled every time you end up in that sort of mindframe. Choose whatever you like, but I'd want 'em to be emotionally charged and believable to make it all the more likely it would work. Ie rather than a picture of a flower, maybe choose some sort of hero imagery - a knight conquering his opponent in battle, making it over a huge gap or up and over the top of a mountain - whatever, something symbolizing overcoming fears of being near death. Who knows, maybe a flower would be just as effective, but I'd guess something more "charged," might work better.

Something to that affect, anyways.


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29 Mar 2013, 6:54 am

People on the spectrum are prone to obsessional thinking. It is probably harder for you to remedy it than the average person because of this.

Sorry I don't have any suggestions, but your therapist should be helping more.


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29 Mar 2013, 12:57 pm

What you are experiencing is called Hadephobia. I experienced it myself back in 2008 when I had something like a psychotic episode / nervous breakdown. I too described it as being like PTSD. My situation was due to a chemical imbalance in my brain. I was put on Celexa and that cured it. But I had to get off of the Celexa because after it cured me, it went on to create disinhibition.

I suggest you check this out:
http://what-the-hell-is-hell.com/
And or listen to this:
http://www.digitalministries.us/steve_g ... hell-1.mp3
http://www.digitalministries.us/steve_g ... hell-2.mp3

Beyond that, you might need psychotherapy. The kind that's used to treat things like PTSD, GAD and phobias.



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29 Mar 2013, 3:36 pm

Great idea thanks so much


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30 Mar 2013, 2:01 pm

Your information has helped me more than you will ever know. Rest assured that you have relieved me of great mental anguish. Thank you.


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