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Perhaps if the many of us work together on making books, story's, music, etc etc, that perhaps we can be constructive enough to bring in some cash for this website, also, I would be willing to work hard on focusing everything to do this kind of thing if others was to back me in doing so, with this I would ask like 20-30% (or what ever sounds fair) of what funds was razed (after costs) if this gets off the ground so that it may be invested into building a community home for those in the autistic spectrum in my region that I live in. like, some land, build homes, a huge place where we all can have gardens and animals etc etc, and if it really took off perhaps build something in most every ones regions. there is nothing we cant accomplish if we worked together on things.
perhaps even set us all up a web-place where we can do some barter and trade or gifts, as in your kids out grow some clothings or the like, or bikes, cars, Anything!, post what you have but no longer need and if its not too costly if someone wants it and is willing to pay the shipping perhaps they can take it off your hands. simple things like that.
what do ya all think?
its something we all can work together on, like think about it, a good book on autistics made by many autistics, a web-page where to the left side is the book being worked on, to the right where suggestions are being made for that page for that book, etc etc, when its done just print then go get it published.
If I had the web site/place/server to work with this on or could afford one I could work on building the site where we all could work together on getting things done, it wouldn't just be my Ideas but all of ours, it would be OUR's.
Music, we could work together on a good variety of music and songs and if we could get a band together and call them like perhaps Spectrum and if the songs hit it off thats allot of money if it all works out, and its hard to fail if its something we all like and we made it together.
Yes call it day dreaming, but its not a day dream if we all work on it, its only a day dream if others look and say hey thats an idea and then do nothing expecting someone else to do it all, or if alls they did was say kewl and then nothing else, this would be for all of us so it would take all of us to get it all done, even if its only small donations or posting links to the website for other autistics to see, this wouldn't only be for Aspies, but ALL autistics. some of you may say well there are already some places, but tell me, is there ever enough? what? don't trust me? thats fine, we can make it so everyone sees whats incoming and where it goes on funds ) I would like that, it would mean that those involved was becoming even more involved and inspired and could see the issues of what its taking and so we could brain storm ideas better and make things work!

Stuff like this can be backed by grants and the like, and with many people involved thats allot of signatures and people asking for the grants, I my self cant apply for that stuff (for reasons I will not go into here on this post) but many of you can, it just takes us all working together on this.

Just on a final note, I would enjoy doing things like this if it took off the ground, it would give me something to work forward too that I could feel good about and bring alittle more purpis to my own life through helping others, just to put my all into it I would also need to be able to pull enough funds to make a living off of it my self. and you could set those standards and costs your self as well, I am not greedy, I would love to have a job that I can work with others more like my self, to live at the place I am/we are building for others, to be around others who may be able to understand me for a change, to make many friends and yet have a peace of mind, to make friends that can or would beleave in me and help the projects we do together grow.



Tim

That sounds like a cracking idea to me Tim...

yes I think it is a good idea duncvis, but I am almost willing to bet that with upon 200 people viewing this post not hardly a 1 or 2 will respond positively in the since of wanting to work with this idea past saying a positive kewl Idea and then not offer to do anything else them selves.
<sigh>

(update: guess I was wrong hehehe yay! lets get cracking!)

we start by opening a web page where we can get together and brain storm ideas.

for trade and barter we open something like an ebay but its more of a listing of what you do have to barter and trade and give away, giving others a chance to barter and trade first and if it don't sell then its to whom ever wants to pay the shipping (optional), with to the side an offerers list for the bartering or trade, we would have to brainstorm how this can be done to everyones liking to where others don't feel short changed and a time limited to how long it can be posted.
as for making books and songs and the like, we can have an web-page to where to the left side is the actual book/music being worked on, to the right a postings list for the books page or subject where others can add their thoughts and ideas then perhaps vote on them, to the bottom a reference listings if needed, where the page its self shifts if the subject page gets too long to help keep it all formatted and page numbers listed, someone would have to come through and do the actual editing and grammar and spell checking stuff, to this book web-paging different subjects can be worked with simultaneously as in there being different chapters and subjects and an index.

this is just a ruff draft ideas, but if we got a brainstorming page going we all can refine the ideas and add more.

like finances, if people wish to donate and the donation actually came in then we can post a listing of what was donated and by whom (optional) and a suggestion and needs box to where it may be best placed and used.

I have been thinking along similar lines recently.
I think a lot of us have a desire to help people, but find ourselves at a loss in a society that doesn't understand us. It is such a struggle for me just to keep a roof over my head without going nuts. So the logical conclusion I have come to is this. Before I die I would like to see a place where people like me can live affordably and pursue their dreams. I want to help ensure that the next generation has a fair start in this game. This can be accomplished easy enough by establishing a small community or appartment complex that is directed at benifiting autistics rather than making someone wealthy.
On the long term horizon, we should have schools that will encourage and develop our unique interests to their fullest potential. Schools provided for autistics by autistics would surpass any special education offered by the NT establishment and provide a place for us to collaborate and grow together through mutual support.

The paradox of course is that we are not well suited to the teamwork that this will require. But once the initial challenges have been overcome I am certain that our momentum will carry us into a better tomorrow.

It seems that what is most vital is $money$.
So how do we go about setting up a fund and how do we decide who will manage it?
Can anyone answer this?

By the way where are you located Tim ?

I am from Idaho.
As for who takes care of funds, we can elect board members or ask those at wrongplanit or simply ask chamoisee to start with till we get organized,(she is as honest as they come and has like dreams of living in and starting a community), we also can get funds from grants, make a posting of the what foundations that can possibly be utilized and post their forms and make foot notes of what it would take and we work together on it, we may even be able to start many community's at once if we work together on it.
as for organizing things most of this we can do on the net together, I can learn what needs to be done and take care of many things my self or we can vote someone to do this for us, this way no one person will get overwhelmed, on the net we can work as a teem and set our own pace for the most part. as for actual construction that would have to be regional, I can take care of like Idaho/Montana/Washington/ Utah /Oregon regions, and I do know something about construction and land, I have also lived in a couple community's before so I know some of what it will take to make it all workable.

I'm impressed. I agree with everyone and everything on this post so far. I am not good with executive skills though either. I'm too much f a one thing at a time person, and I don't know how to do something until I'm shown 100 times. But I would like to be involved somehow. I'm in australia though.
I could offer the site poetry and digital art (my web site has my art on it)
I'm slow to catch on too, but once I do, I've got it by the 'bulls'!

great input aspergian mutant!!

ElfMan

For the barter/trade of goods, it could be done in a seperate category. There is a website called freecycle.org that is for people in different areas of the world to list things they want or want to get rid of for free. It is an email group out of yahoo. The person who gets the item picks it up (usually). It can maybe be done here in a similar style.

I just need to explain what I think you mean in my own words and see if I am on the right track. This is what I am seeing:-

An International non-profit organization with a Title. (Maybe like Autism International). Put together by a community of people on the spectrum. On this site alone there is a diverse range of skills and talents. There must be people in trade and arts and medicine etc that are on the spectrum.

Money could be raised by those of us that have talents in certain areas such as music and art and literature etc could donate peices. Like the book you are talking about. I like your idea of having it up for people to vote for and then the favourites going into book form. I think we could also make a book of art. Or combine the two. I'm not good at thinking of ways to raise money.

We could have an awareness leaflet made (again kindly donated) and anyone in the world can print it off. We could have Autism Awareness week. And we could print off the leaflets from the site, and do drops in our area. And if we all did it in the same week all over the world it would help to tap into that Mass Consciousness better.

If someone could turn my art into wallpapers or screensavers or something that can be downloaded for a price, I would donate it that way.
(Actually Alex if your reading this too, I wouldn't mind having a couple done for this site to help to cover site costs, if its possible and you want to.)

Money raised is going towards spectrum community needs. Aide people and housing, mentors etc.
If it is housing that is needed then those on the spectrum with the combined skills in this are pool together. Like builders and plumbers etc. With hopefully them donating their skills and the money only goes towards costs. And there is also those with relatives on the spectrum with their own skills and abilities too.
So potential is there!!
And there are so many aspects I can't put into words too.

So have I managed to picture what you are saying aspergian mutant?

ElfMan

I think their is a huge hole in the market we can corner.

Everyone familiar with AS knows that Aspies are far and away the worlds greatest resource for information on whatever their topic of interest is.

Instead of "Dummies" books, we need to start our own line of "Aspies" books.

Thanks for your reply Alex. I too am very wary of get rich quick scemes. In fact I'm wary about everything.
About the wallpapers, if you want them I would like you to pick 3 perhaps that you like. I could then send you the better quality copies which I would give you total permission to use as wallpapers and screensavers to sell on WrongPlanet, with 100% monies recieved going toward WrongPlanet running costs and projects. I do not want any money that is collected this way. Just put my name on them.
And if you have other uses for them you could let me know first maybe. As long as I can keep offering them to the public as limited edition giclee prints, I'm happy. And Wrong Planet selling them as wallpapers and such would not interfere with that at all.

I agree that all people have skills and no-one needs to be excluded. I see everyone as an equal dinamic to a whole. No-one is better or worse than anyone else, just different.

As for salaries, that will have to come into question somewhere down the line, but until then we need to pull together and volunteer if anything is going to work.

With the housing I didn't mean exlusive housing. Yes this would be bad. And I would hope any organization would be to unite the differences we share, on the spectrum or not or otherwise. Which is why I am happy to help WrongPlanet, because I know this is the focus here.

What would be good is in the future, the 'hypothetical organization' able to set up teams of tradies that volunteer to go to houses of families that have someone on the spectrum and fix their plumbing if its needed or do some electrical work etc. And in other cases maybe a family might be needing a house built.
Yes your very correct this does need a lot of organizing. Something I'm not good at. What I hope is that just by discussing it, we can begin a journey as others read and think of ways that they too can be involved or of ideas.

Man, you lost me with the Mothers day crack I know its a joke, I just don't get it. *shakes head at self :)

Anyway let me know if and what pics u would like. I better add here that I do not consider myself artistic. I cannot create on demand. The art I do is done in hyper-focus. I start and finish not really knowing what I've done or how I've done it. (just so you know not to say " Can you do such and such" because this puts too much pressure on me, because I don't know how.)

ElfMan

I don't expect get rich quick stuff, in fact I don't expect any coin out of this other then if it takes off and needs my ALL when it comes to working hard on it, then I would need something to live on and to pay the costs of projects needed when needed (as I would post that would need to be done and we brain storm to get OUR projects done), or I would have to spend much time working to make a living instead of concentrating on nothing but this program/organization we are thinking on. eventually, if this gets off the ground and takes off, someone will have to take the time and the bull by the horns and spend a ton of time constantly.
besides that, I don't think the idea will fly right off, all good things take allot of TIME and WORK and energy, all good things in good time.

aspergian mutant, you've got us thinking thats for sure! What role is it that you wish to have? I'm not too sure. Are you saying you are interested in the running and maintaining of a web site that extends out into the community with certain aspects? Or are you wanting to do this and more? I guess I would like to see us expand Wrong Planet as it is something that is already being considered. It is already functioning, and we have nearly 1000 members here. But in saying that, I would not want to be saying I don't want you doing a site, because thats not what I mean. And I don't even know where Alex would like to head with WP either. Maybe there would need to be a team of website managers. That would help people to be able to have time to spend on their private lives too.
I would love to hear from other members to here what they could offer.

I think the best thing to do is stick within the means, and expand as it grows naturally.

ElfMan