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DonkeyBuster
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24 Apr 2013, 3:41 pm

I'm having a discussion w/a mom who's 6 YO daughter has recently been Dx'd as autistic...I'm her inside source. :roll: Anyway, the mom explains this to herself as her daughter being a soul from another place, "the soul is so high functioning that it glitches in a low functioning human body." And that she came to this planet to help it change, evolve.

Now, I personally think this is a lot of hooey...yeah, sure, I'd like to believe I'm some special magical critter, but really I'm just another person, a little weird but human.

So, anybody here an avatar? How's the plan to evolve the planet going? Anybody out there brought up by parents who thought you were an avatar come to save us?

What's everybody elses' take on this?



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24 Apr 2013, 3:47 pm

I think people try to rationalize things into having a higher purpose. I think that's all it is.



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24 Apr 2013, 3:49 pm

I don't believe in irrational airy fairy loony stuff, sorry.



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24 Apr 2013, 4:00 pm

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I think people try to rationalize things into having a higher purpose. I think that's all it is.


I agree.

We weren't really born with a purpose, if you ask me. We have to find our purposes on our own. Those who find it by "supernatural" means... I don't think I'll finish that thought.


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24 Apr 2013, 5:48 pm

Sounds alot like the whole indigo child craze maybe.



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24 Apr 2013, 5:54 pm

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Sounds alot like the whole indigo child craze maybe.


I was trying to remember the other name for it...yeah, indigo child. So what's your take...are you an indigo child?



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24 Apr 2013, 6:09 pm

I think people as a whole, no matter neurological persuasion, try to find meaning in life. Some people do it in ways that I find range from slightly odd to outright outlandish. I try not to pass judgment on anyone's perspective, especially if it gives them peace or helps them make sense of things. I draw the line, though, when people have beliefs that cause them to do harm to themselves or someone else. But if someone feels good in believing that they were sent here to help the world evolve, I see no harm in it. And since I am not omniscient I suppose it is possibly true (although not probable)

I do not believe in indigo children and the like, but I do think that my particular children were given to me in particular for a reason. I do not know exactly what that reason is, but I do believe it is what was meant to be. It gives me a feeling of peace and a deep sense of...purpose? Not sure of the right word. But raising my kids is what I am supposed to be doing. Sometimes remembering that helps me fight the day-to-day nonsense and focus on what really matters in life.


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24 Apr 2013, 6:15 pm

DonkeyBuster wrote:
. Now, I personally think this is a lot of hooey...


That's because it IS a lot of hooey. :lol: How ridiculous!



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24 Apr 2013, 6:31 pm

That kind of thinking can harm the children involved if they do not get the appropriate help/resources/understanding because of it, as it is often parents that believe it and not the actual autistic/adhd/what-have-you person that comes to that kind of conclusion by themselves. Anyway if it was an neurodiverse adult believing it, it would point more to them being on the schizo-spectrum and they shouldn't be judged too harshly.
I think life's purpose is what you make it, and I applaud them that have fantastical purposes.



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24 Apr 2013, 6:43 pm

DonkeyBuster wrote:
What's everybody elses' take on this?

<-- Takes one long, deep breath, and...

Avatar (n): (1) An allegedly variant phase or version of a continuing basic entity; (2) the alleged incarnation in human form of a divine being; (3) An alleged instance of a divine soul or spirit taking over a mortal body; (4) A graphic image used to represent an on-line user on a social media website.

There is no valid material evidence to support any claim that favors the existence of a "Divine Being", a "Soul", or a "Continuing Basic Identity"; therefore, the first three definitions given above for Avatar are null concepts.



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24 Apr 2013, 6:43 pm

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I think people as a whole, no matter neurological persuasion, try to find meaning in life. Some people do it in ways that I find range from slightly odd to outright outlandish. I try not to pass judgment on anyone's perspective, especially if it gives them peace or helps them make sense of things. I draw the line, though, when people have beliefs that cause them to do harm to themselves or someone else. But if someone feels good in believing that they were sent here to help the world evolve, I see no harm in it. And since I am not omniscient I suppose it is possibly true (although not probable)

I do not believe in indigo children and the like, but I do think that my particular children were given to me in particular for a reason. I do not know exactly what that reason is, but I do believe it is what was meant to be. It gives me a feeling of peace and a deep sense of...purpose? Not sure of the right word. But raising my kids is what I am supposed to be doing. Sometimes remembering that helps me fight the day-to-day nonsense and focus on what really matters in life.


It doesn't sound like you think your children are more special than someone else's. Of course every parent thinks their kid is precious, but you're not laying some big 'mission' on the kids...it's your meaning in life, not theirs. And as it serves life, I think it's cool. :)



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24 Apr 2013, 6:46 pm

Fnord wrote:
DonkeyBuster wrote:
What's everybody elses' take on this?

<-- Takes one long, deep breath, and...

Avatar (n): (1) An allegedly variant phase or version of a continuing basic entity; (2) the alleged incarnation in human form of a divine being; (3) An alleged instance of a divine soul or spirit taking over a mortal body; (4) A graphic image used to represent an on-line user on a social media website.

There is no valid material evidence to support any claim that favors the existence of a "Divine Being", a "Soul", or a "Continuing Basic Identity"; therefore, the first three definitions given above for Avatar are null concepts.


Ah, thank you. The voice of cold, clear reason. That felt sooo good. :D



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24 Apr 2013, 6:49 pm

My mother believes I am psychic or a reincarnated person or something, citing my early use of complex words/sentences and traits I consider related to ASD (pattern recognition, jigsaw puzzle solving, unusual/encyclopaedic memory, etc.). I don't believe it myself though. She is a believer in the supernatural, uses tarot cards, and reads a lot of Sylvia Browne books. It could be a schizo-spectrum issue, but she also has Graves' disease (a thyroid auto-immune disease).


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24 Apr 2013, 6:52 pm

xMistrox wrote:
My mother believes I am psychic or a reincarnated person or something, citing my early use of complex words/sentences and traits I consider related to ASD (pattern recognition, jigsaw puzzle solving, unusual/encyclopaedic memory, etc.). I don't believe it myself though. She is a believer in the supernatural, uses tarot cards, and reads a lot of Sylvia Browne books. It could be a schizo-spectrum issue, but she also has Graves' disease (a thyroid auto-immune disease).


How do you think her belief has affected you? If it has...
And what is your relationship w/supernatural thinking?



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24 Apr 2013, 6:55 pm

DonkeyBuster wrote:
InThisTogether wrote:
I think people as a whole, no matter neurological persuasion, try to find meaning in life. Some people do it in ways that I find range from slightly odd to outright outlandish. I try not to pass judgment on anyone's perspective, especially if it gives them peace or helps them make sense of things. I draw the line, though, when people have beliefs that cause them to do harm to themselves or someone else. But if someone feels good in believing that they were sent here to help the world evolve, I see no harm in it. And since I am not omniscient I suppose it is possibly true (although not probable)

I do not believe in indigo children and the like, but I do think that my particular children were given to me in particular for a reason. I do not know exactly what that reason is, but I do believe it is what was meant to be. It gives me a feeling of peace and a deep sense of...purpose? Not sure of the right word. But raising my kids is what I am supposed to be doing. Sometimes remembering that helps me fight the day-to-day nonsense and focus on what really matters in life.


It doesn't sound like you think your children are more special than someone else's. Of course every parent thinks their kid is precious, but you're not laying some big 'mission' on the kids...it's your meaning in life, not theirs. And as it serves life, I think it's cool. :)


Thank you! :)

I think it is cool that they were given to me. I am blessed.


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