from "depression & anxiety" to autism ? someb

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29 May 2013, 3:59 pm

i am now treated for anxiety & depression , but i have a gut feeling that there is more behind it bc i have lived with this problem my whole life.
i felt different couldn't do what others did so i stayed behind.
almost thirty with no job no social skills or live , never had a relationship , difficulties with physical(touch and getting to close) and emotional expression(can't cry and other stuff).
been in my room for the past few years no holiday's or whatsoever and some other stuff.

my question is , i like to know if someone here been there of has taken this road .
from first getting treated but eventually getting diagnosed autism.

bc i want to ask my psychologist , if i can get tested for autism spectrum , BUT am afraid i don't know how she will react to it.
will she think like how did this guy come with that ?

and what is the best way to explain what i just said above to here ?


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29 May 2013, 4:22 pm

I was diagnosed with depression, then panic disorder.

I explained to the psychiatrist that I strongly suspected autism, specifically Aspergers and the Psychiatrist who was treating me for depression and panic disorder said that she was not really qualified to address that but referred me to a colleague who could assess me. That person did not take my insurance and her diagnostic procedures were extremely expensive, but then I was fortunate enough to find the name of another diagnostician simultaneously through a new friend from WP and from the GRASP page on diagnostic sources.

So I went to him and was diagnosed with AS. There are other things that could look similar, so it's a good idea to get confirmation of your suspicions from an experienced diagnostician.

Don't worry about the best way of explaining, they will elicit the needed information from you. Just don't take "you can't have it" from a person who doesn't diagnose it. Although they are trained professionals, if this is not their area, they can be quite ignorant about it.

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29 May 2013, 4:37 pm

thanks for the quick response.

it;s really nice to read that someone has taken that route.
i was thinking about emailing her , bc i have a appointment with her next week so i thought i could email her
with the request and when i go i don't have to explain everything verbally (bad at verbal commun.)


i hope she'll understand and will support it , i just hate the long waiting list they have. :(



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30 May 2013, 12:52 am

You are talking about the way you have been "for the past few years". Autism is strongest in childhood, if you get anyone to diagnose autism, they're a crook who hands out "fashion" diagnoses.



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30 May 2013, 4:50 am

Many an aspie has been down this path. As was mentioned by Adamantium, your psychologist might not (well, probably doesn't) specialise in ASDs, so rather than asking her to assess you, ask for a referral to someone who can. If you think she might be resistant to this, you can try taking along your results to test such as the AQ (Autism Spectrum Quotient).

You may well have depression and anxiety, but do you feel like you need to know why? That's what pushed me to get my diagnosis - I felt like there was an underlying reason for the way I felt, that wasn't being picked up by GPs or your everyday psychs. If you honestly feel like the full story isn't being told, and that AS seems to explain things a lot more clearly, push for a referral to an ASD specialist. Explain this desire to your psychologist and hopefully she will help you out. Be sure not to sound like you are disputing her diagnosis - you are not - but explain that you want to take it a step further.

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30 May 2013, 5:14 am

Noetic wrote:
You are talking about the way you have been "for the past few years". Autism is strongest in childhood, if you get anyone to diagnose autism, they're a crook who hands out "fashion" diagnoses.


You can´t know that from this brief description.

Having "had this problem all life" and "feling different" can be an indication that something else may lie in the bottom, and it certainly calls for a closer inspection. Being misdiagnosed can mess up everything.
Anyway, anyone who feels like this should get help.


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30 May 2013, 5:20 am

Noetic wrote:
You are talking about the way you have been "for the past few years". Autism is strongest in childhood, if you get anyone to diagnose autism, they're a crook who hands out "fashion" diagnoses.


You clearly didn't read OP's post:

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but i have a gut feeling that there is more behind it bc i have lived with this problem my whole life. i felt different couldn't do what others did so i stayed behind.


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30 May 2013, 5:22 am

Link to the ARC full battery of Asperger's tests at source:

http://www.autismresearchcentre.com/arc_tests

Take the AQ10 along to your doctor after you have completed it, it can be used as an initial screening for onward referral (if necessary) or by the doctor you are seeing if they can assess.


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30 May 2013, 7:25 am

Noetic wrote:
You are talking about the way you have been "for the past few years". Autism is strongest in childhood, if you get anyone to diagnose autism, they're a crook who hands out "fashion" diagnoses.


disagree. The older I've got, the more obvious it's been.



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30 May 2013, 8:14 am

I also spent 6 years under the treatment of a psychiatrist who diagnosed generalised anxiety disorder. This was in the 90s when Aspergers was still new. I just went along with what he said.

But I heard about Aspergers 9 years ago and suspected it applied to me.

Finally diagnosed last year. Not with the same dr.

The symptoms that used to be called panic attacks, were really overload :)


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30 May 2013, 8:15 am

You should see a specialist in autism about your condition, they will definitely know more and provide a more thorough service.

You would be better off seeing a shoe repair man than a psychologist, they have mixed ideas about autism, half of them give out the wrong diagnoses.



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31 May 2013, 12:17 am

Noetic wrote:
You are talking about the way you have been "for the past few years". Autism is strongest in childhood, if you get anyone to diagnose autism, they're a crook who hands out "fashion" diagnoses.



NO, i always had issues BUT it my first time going to a psychologist . iv'e been three times now but i feel it goes slowly and she keeps hanging at depression YET i have told here other stuff bc i don't think depression has(can) haunted me my whole life ?!
i have this issues all my life. i am certain about that, that is one of the reason why i have done nothing with my life and lived a solitude life.

in that organization they have a section for "autism" , i read that on there site .
and bc they have a waiting list i wanted to ask here if she can make an appointment for me so i don;t have to wait three to four weeks.



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31 May 2013, 12:24 am

yellowtamarin wrote:
Many an aspie has been down this path. As was mentioned by Adamantium, your psychologist might not (well, probably doesn't) specialise in ASDs, so rather than asking her to assess you, ask for a referral to someone who can. If you think she might be resistant to this, you can try taking along your results to test such as the AQ (Autism Spectrum Quotient).

You may well have depression and anxiety, but do you feel like you need to know why? That's what pushed me to get my diagnosis - I felt like there was an underlying reason for the way I felt, that wasn't being picked up by GPs or your everyday psychs. If you honestly feel like the full story isn't being told, and that AS seems to explain things a lot more clearly, push for a referral to an ASD specialist. Explain this desire to your psychologist and hopefully she will help you out. Be sure not to sound like you are disputing her diagnosis - you are not - but explain that you want to take it a step further.

Good luck.


i asked myself , if depression and anxiety would disappear would i be a different person would my personality be different.
will i change into an extrovert will i talk more will i be able to gain relationships for the first time in my life would i do things different .

i asked myself those questions , but i don't see myself being like that. for me it is who i am personally.
anxiety & dep. are not core changers if you know what i mean . this is how i am for my childhood till now .



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31 May 2013, 10:41 am

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bc i want to ask my psychologist , if i can get tested for autism spectrum , BUT am afraid i don't know how she will react to it.
will she think like how did this guy come with that ?


If she does, then she doesn't understand undiagnosed adult ASD. Many such people first present to a psychologist with depression and anxiety. (Which are kind of a psychological equivalent of a high fever - a sign of 'something wrong' that can be caused by a wide myriad of different underlying issues.)

I do recommend when you ask that, that you make sure to mention some of what makes you believe you might be on the spectrum, with particular focus on how you acted as a child. (A lot of the differential diagnoses for AS in adulthood are adult-onset conditions.)