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14 Jun 2013, 11:24 am

Nonverbal meaning, having less than two sufficient conversations a day.. I was wondering if anyone else is like that, and how do you get by?

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14 Jun 2013, 11:28 am

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14 Jun 2013, 11:31 am

That's not nonverbal.

But yes, instant message is useful.

(I vary widely in how much I speak)

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14 Jun 2013, 11:38 am

Tuttle wrote:

That's not nonverbal.

But yes, instant message is useful.

(I vary widely in how much I speak)

I don't count messaging through internet as being social, but in a sense it replaces it. I have a very difficult time making conversations off here, and it becomes strenuous. Often, a large social gathering will leave me exhausted for a long period after.. I'd like to find a way to get around these constraints

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14 Jun 2013, 11:54 am

I mean, if you can speak and just rarely speak, that's not being nonverbal. That's having it be difficult to interact with people, which is different than being nonverbal. Being nonverbal means in an emergency situation, you cannot use your voice still. It's not about being social, its about ability to communicate when necessary.

Being rarely social is worth discussing, but the phrase nonverbal isn't the phrase to use for it.

For both of them, I find using the internet and other technology is a useful solution.

Why do you need to interact with people?

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14 Jun 2013, 11:57 am

Tuttle wrote:

That's not nonverbal.

But yes, instant message is useful.

(I vary widely in how much I speak)

I agree completely. I have a really difficult time opening up to people I don't know, although once I know them, those difficulties tend to dissipate at least somewhat. Chatting on the Internet is invaluable for me as far as socializing and meeting new people are concerned. If and when I do meet those I chat with face-to-face, it's much more likely to go well if I've spent lots of time chatting with them; it improves my comfort level with them immensely.

Having said this, my problems lie with personal conversation. As far as work-related communications, while I do come off as odd, and sometimes annoying, I don't seem to have as many problems. But this may just be me.

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14 Jun 2013, 12:01 pm

Tuttle wrote:

I think it would depend on the situation and circumstance. I've frozen up completely before, and was told it was "selective mutism" - but still nonverbal characteristics. I find the urge to assimilate into NT world more, by starting to feel social isolation. I've digressed alot over the years, and it's lowered my quality of life. What's it like in your situation?

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14 Jun 2013, 12:06 pm

Thelibrarian wrote:

Tuttle wrote:

That's not nonverbal.

But yes, instant message is useful.

(I vary widely in how much I speak)

The internet is all I use really. I love communicating with people through here, although it feels like being re-wired with it replacing all social norms. I've gained alot of insight from messaging though and how to conduct myself, it's become harder to offline.. I only really speak with select family and that's it, so I guess I'm trying to be more constructive towards a more independent future where I have the abilities and tools that allow me to be capable of holding real and sufficient conversations with people who are NT, that aren't family..

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14 Jun 2013, 12:34 pm

:chin: If they are completely non-verbal does that mean they won't respond to this thread?

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14 Jun 2013, 12:44 pm

TallyMan wrote:

:chin: If they are completely non-verbal does that mean they won't respond to this thread?

lol. I guess.. I imagine there's people who use WP and never post, I go through fazes where I don't post either.

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14 Jun 2013, 12:52 pm

I thought Non-Verbal meant just non-speaking. So I would think you could be completely non-verbal and still "silently" speak through typing or writing.

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14 Jun 2013, 1:00 pm

YoungAtHeart wrote:

I thought Non-Verbal meant just non-speaking. So I would think you could be completely non-verbal and still "silently" speak through typing or writing.

I think theirs different degrees of it.. just like with autism, some are worse than others. Some cannot speak at all, while others are limited. I more reference my predicament as selective mutism. It's stressful trying to output the verbal processes to engage in a conversation, my motorskills are poor.. I used to play alot of video games, and the past few months I quit that completely.. I don't usually watch tv, so I hang out online the majority of time.. or go for walks, try and work out.. cook. I went to speech classes as a child, but I'm hardly around any people so that function sort of diminished. I'm not sure if it's psychological, or neuro-wired in me, but I'll be going back to therapy this summer. It's a goal of mine to improve it..

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14 Jun 2013, 1:32 pm

Raymond_Fawkes wrote:

Nonverbal meaning, having less than two sufficient conversations a day.. I was wondering if anyone else is like that, and how do you get by?

That's not what nonverbal means.

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14 Jun 2013, 1:34 pm

Kurgan wrote:

Raymond_Fawkes wrote:

Nonverbal meaning, having less than two sufficient conversations a day.. I was wondering if anyone else is like that, and how do you get by?

That's not what nonverbal means.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonverbal_ ... g_disorder

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/nonverbal

The second and third definitions.

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14 Jun 2013, 1:35 pm

This thread makes no sense at all. There are people who are non verbal and use instant message to communicate. Unless they're actually speaking, (which they generally won't be) they're not being verbal.

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14 Jun 2013, 1:38 pm

Wandering_Stranger wrote:

Stranger, I have a kid with regular autism who volunteers shelving books for me. He is almost completely nonverbal, yet he texts on his phone incessantly.

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