Steering away from DSM

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23 Jun 2013, 2:09 pm

This is partly a response to the thread about misdiagnosis. I don't think it is ever a good idea to use bullying status as something you identify with. We need to remove maltreatment by NTs from the thngs we identify as typical of Aspies. These are things we should not have been subjected to, and thus should not identify with as our differences.

Incidently, I just got my paper about Aspie Quiz accepted for publication, and it's primary objective is to define neurodiversity independently of DSM AND popular ideas (and misconceptions) about ASD. AFAIK, this is the first empirical paper about neurodiversity, and that also defines neurodiversity in a scientific way that allows replication, This definition explicititly excludes bullying and maltreatment as neurodiversity traits, and doesn't favor traits that cause disability over traits that are just differences.

I think this is what we need in order to get past the bad research done using DSM.

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23 Jun 2013, 2:19 pm

Should said article be published in any media that I have access to, I would be very interested in reading it.

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23 Jun 2013, 2:25 pm

WerewolfPoet wrote:

Should said article be published in any media that I have access to, I would be very interested in reading it.

Yes, it will be available for free. I'll post the link once the production phase is done.

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23 Jun 2013, 4:18 pm

I think I like the idea that the 'Spectrum' is both a difference and a disability, and we don't need to decide ahead of time which aspect is bigger.

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23 Jun 2013, 4:38 pm

rdos wrote:

WerewolfPoet wrote:

Should said article be published in any media that I have access to, I would be very interested in reading it.

Yes, it will be available for free. I'll post the link once the production phase is done.

Always good to see a WPer get published.

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24 Jun 2013, 3:14 am

AardvarkGoodSwimmer wrote:

I think I like the idea that the 'Spectrum' is both a difference and a disability, and we don't need to decide ahead of time which aspect is bigger.

Yes, especially since degree of disability is related to culture and environment,which makes definitions based on such criteria vary over time and between cultures, which makes them more or less meaningless as foundations of scientific research.

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25 Jun 2013, 5:21 am

Grattis! This is an excellent idea.

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25 Jun 2013, 5:57 am

rdos wrote:

This is partly a response to the thread about misdiagnosis. I don't think it is ever a good idea to use bullying status as something you identify with. We need to remove maltreatment by NTs from the thngs we identify as typical of Aspies. These are things we should not have been subjected to, and thus should not identify with as our differences.

Incidently, I just got my paper about Aspie Quiz accepted for publication, and it's primary objective is to define neurodiversity independently of DSM AND popular ideas (and misconceptions) about ASD. AFAIK, this is the first empirical paper about neurodiversity, and that also defines neurodiversity in a scientific way that allows replication, This definition explicitly excludes bullying and maltreatment as neurodiversity traits, and doesn't favor traits that cause disability over traits that are just differences.

I think this is what we need in order to get past the bad research done using DSM.

Well done, look forward to reading it.

Just wanted to point out that bullying and maltreatment are not traits, they are actions of other people against the person with the disability or disorder. Maybe I have misunderstood what you mean? Perhaps you are talking about them as being traits of NTs?

BTW what is AFAIK?

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25 Jun 2013, 6:31 am

whirlingmind wrote:

BTW what is AFAIK?

I read it as "As Far As I Know"

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