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Lazenca_x
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11 Jul 2013, 12:31 am

I really don't know how I feel about this latest development. If the test that they are proposing is created, will it not give people an excuse to abort babies that have a risk of developing autism once they are born?

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 094701.htm

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11 Jul 2013, 1:03 am

Well, i think the study is important because it gives more clues on the causes of autism. After many years of not understanding anything, i am sure now that i inherit asperger's from my mother. So it would be interesting to see if this is related to us


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11 Jul 2013, 1:27 am

there were autistic traits running both sides of my family tree.



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11 Jul 2013, 5:58 am

Well I know I gave both my children autism. I believe my parents are & were somewhere on the spectrum. I have a sister with schizophrenia which is genetically connected to autism. However, I have also just found out that my husband's father was diagnosed with schizophrenia years ago as well as severe depression (again, genetically related to autism) and although he is NT, I have realised my husband does have a few autistic-like traits too.

So as both myself and my husband have siblings who have no signs or diagnoses of ASCs, perhaps in mine and my sister's cases, our mother had increased antibodies when she was carrying us and it triggered the genes or something. Then because I have the genes and my husband could be BAP or carrying some higher risk genes, our children didn't stand a chance. I was unwell during both pregnancies as well, with flu and kidney infections so I would have had raised antibodies that affected them too.


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11 Jul 2013, 6:51 am

whirlingmind wrote:
So as both myself and my husband have siblings who have no signs or diagnoses of ASCs, perhaps in mine and my sister's cases, our mother had increased antibodies when she was carrying us and it triggered the genes or something. Then because I have the genes and my husband could be BAP or carrying some higher risk genes, our children didn't stand a chance...


What do "ASC" and "BAP" mean ?


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11 Jul 2013, 10:24 am

ASC = autistic spectrum condition

BAP = broad autism phenotype


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11 Jul 2013, 11:42 am

Yep, the science on prenatal inflammation/T-cell & immune dysfunction and autism is starting to get settled.

But as with climate change and Evolution, there will always be deniers with a political agenda, in this case the neurodiversity/anti-cure contingent, in spite of the fact that the new scientific discoveries do not lead directly to a cure.

A solid treatment like lithium for bipolar based on the new science is about 5-10 years out while a complete cure is about 20 years from FDA approval.



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11 Jul 2013, 1:06 pm

Tyri0n wrote:
Yep, the science on prenatal inflammation/T-cell & immune dysfunction and autism is starting to get settled.

But as with climate change and Evolution, there will always be deniers with a political agenda, in this case the neurodiversity/anti-cure contingent, in spite of the fact that the new scientific discoveries do not lead directly to a cure.

A solid treatment like lithium for bipolar based on the new science is about 5-10 years out while a complete cure is about 20 years from FDA approval.


Hi, i have heard a lot about people who are against a cure. Can you tell me a little more about their political agenda ? I have no clue but my my opinion is that if scientific research leads to a cure, i have nothing against it.


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11 Jul 2013, 7:38 pm

Lazenca_x wrote:
I really don't know how I feel about this latest development. If the test that they are proposing is created, will it not give people an excuse to abort babies that have a risk of developing autism once they are born?

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 094701.htm




What do you think?



of course it will



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12 Jul 2013, 1:52 am

Note: Nothing in this post should be taken as endorsing theories that may or may not be implied or discussed in the underlying paper, or theories advanced by other commenters.

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Seven antigens were significantly more reactive to the blood of mothers of children with autism than to that of the control mothers. The study found that the mothers with antibodies that reacted with any one of these antigens, either individually or in combination with other antigens, were more than three times as likely to have a child with autism spectrum disorder.


If we're talking about three times the "generally accepted" 1/88 number, then I'd be interested to see the math behind selling this test. According to the article, they already sold the rights, but I don't see how this test makes money, even if it's dirt cheap.


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12 Jul 2013, 7:07 am

GeomAsp wrote:
Tyri0n wrote:
Yep, the science on prenatal inflammation/T-cell & immune dysfunction and autism is starting to get settled.

But as with climate change and Evolution, there will always be deniers with a political agenda, in this case the neurodiversity/anti-cure contingent, in spite of the fact that the new scientific discoveries do not lead directly to a cure.

A solid treatment like lithium for bipolar based on the new science is about 5-10 years out while a complete cure is about 20 years from FDA approval.


Hi, i have heard a lot about people who are against a cure. Can you tell me a little more about their political agenda ? I have no clue but my my opinion is that if scientific research leads to a cure, i have nothing against it.


Check out Aspies for Freedom, another site about 1/3 the size of this one. Those folks are radical as hell.



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12 Jul 2013, 11:08 am

Tyri0n wrote:
GeomAsp wrote:
Tyri0n wrote:
Yep, the science on prenatal inflammation/T-cell & immune dysfunction and autism is starting to get settled.

But as with climate change and Evolution, there will always be deniers with a political agenda, in this case the neurodiversity/anti-cure contingent, in spite of the fact that the new scientific discoveries do not lead directly to a cure.

A solid treatment like lithium for bipolar based on the new science is about 5-10 years out while a complete cure is about 20 years from FDA approval.


Hi, i have heard a lot about people who are against a cure. Can you tell me a little more about their political agenda ? I have no clue but my my opinion is that if scientific research leads to a cure, i have nothing against it.


Check out Aspies for Freedom, another site about 1/3 the size of this one. Those folks are radical as hell.


According to AFF, they have 113 711 members as of this post.

http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/index.php

I am not one of their members.