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18 Jul 2013, 4:10 pm

This spoken word poem is in response to J. Cole’s offensive lyrics about autistics in Drake’s song “Jodeci Freestyle”:

“I'm undoubtedly the hottest and that's just me bein' modest
Go check the numbers dummy, that's just me gettin' started
I'm artistic, you ni**as is autistic, ret*d”

PLEASE SHARE AND PASS THIS ALONG! I really want J. Cole to view this himself, it would enormously help spread awareness about autism and help defeat the stereotypes.

Let’s make this thing VIRAL!! !! !! !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c7nNPB3g7Y



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18 Jul 2013, 4:44 pm

its already been posted about on this page somewhere.

is this j cole as in, MJ cole,did alot of UK garage MCing years back?


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18 Jul 2013, 4:57 pm

All I have to say about this is where is 50 Tyson in all this. I want to hear how he'd ether these ignorant rappers for us.



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18 Jul 2013, 5:51 pm

He probably also writes nasty lyrics about women, people not of his race, and anyone he even mildly dislikes or feels superior to. Apparently that's par for the course with rap music. They act like a five-year-old who just learned their first swear word and can't stop using it just to see other people react. :roll:


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18 Jul 2013, 5:54 pm

I wouldn't say it's strictly par for the course, there are rappers who do not do a lot of these things (I recall the Wu Tang Clan for example, all I could find was rap about kung fu, which is awesome).



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18 Jul 2013, 7:18 pm

As I mentioned on the other J Cole thread, I find it silly that people are taking such offence at the use of the word autistic while completely ignoring the fact that the rest of the song repeatedly talks about women being sluts and ho's and uses the n-word pretty much every other line. If we're going to be offended by a song, we need to be offended by all of it, not just the bits that happen to offend our particular subculture.


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18 Jul 2013, 7:36 pm

Why would there be song lyrics against autistics? We're awesome!



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18 Jul 2013, 7:38 pm

StarTrekker wrote:
As I mentioned on the other J Cole thread, I find it silly that people are taking such offence at the use of the word autistic while completely ignoring the fact that the rest of the song repeatedly talks about women being sluts and ho's and uses the n-word pretty much every other line. If we're going to be offended by a song, we need to be offended by all of it, not just the bits that happen to offend our particular subculture.
I did mention that, actually...


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19 Jul 2013, 1:08 am

I think autism is the least of the offensive things that idiotic, uncreative, stuckup, talent-less bigot is rambling on about. He is also clearly sexist and racist.

Anyway, if you look at the comments on rap genius it's clear everyone else is fed up with this offensive idiocy in rap as well.
http://rapgenius.com/Drake-jodeci-freestyle-lyrics


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19 Jul 2013, 4:31 am

I refuse to be offended because I refuse to be anyone's victim. In a free market, indifference = death.


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19 Jul 2013, 6:16 pm

Probably not the most politically correct thing, but tame in comparison to some of the lyrics in death metal songs. I have better things to be offended over than music.



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19 Jul 2013, 6:48 pm

StarTrekker wrote:
As I mentioned on the other J Cole thread, I find it silly that people are taking such offence at the use of the word autistic while completely ignoring the fact that the rest of the song repeatedly talks about women being sluts and ho's and uses the n-word pretty much every other line. If we're going to be offended by a song, we need to be offended by all of it, not just the bits that happen to offend our particular subculture.


And in the other thread, I linked to one article that discusses this exact thing.



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19 Jul 2013, 6:53 pm

Drehmaschine wrote:
Probably not the most politically correct thing, but tame in comparison to some of the lyrics in death metal songs. I have better things to be offended over than music.


Good for you, then.

It's not about being offended, it's about how people to whom such labels apply are treated and dehumanized, and how the use of such words as slurs reflects broader societal mistreatment. But if it helps you ignore it to pretend it's just about "political correctness" and "being offended" then I guess go on and keep deluding yourself.



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21 Jul 2013, 12:32 pm

Hope all is well with everyone!

I just wanted to let you all know that my new spoken word poem (in response to J. Cole's offensive lyrics about autism) is featured on the homepage of Worldstarhiphop.com and has over 100,000+ views this morning ALONE!

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/v ... L2f3LB34Ek

Best,
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21 Jul 2013, 5:09 pm

Verdandi wrote:
Drehmaschine wrote:
Probably not the most politically correct thing, but tame in comparison to some of the lyrics in death metal songs. I have better things to be offended over than music.


Good for you, then.

It's not about being offended, it's about how people to whom such labels apply are treated and dehumanized, and how the use of such words as slurs reflects broader societal mistreatment. But if it helps you ignore it to pretend it's just about "political correctness" and "being offended" then I guess go on and keep deluding yourself.

Why are you glossing over the use of the N Word and how women are treated and killing cops, usw. in hip-hop, but choosing to be offended over one part of a song? Seems like some people these days just want to get offended over everything. Relax, it's just a song written by some loon that nobody probably even listens to. If he's Ami, he has a Right to say as he wishes, popular or not. Remember the Amis let that church picket funerals, so this artist can sing about whatever he wants.



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21 Jul 2013, 5:22 pm

Drehmaschine wrote:
Why are you glossing over the use of the N Word and how women are treated and killing cops, usw. in hip-hop, but choosing to be offended over one part of a song? Seems like some people these days just want to get offended over everything. Relax, it's just a song written by some loon that nobody probably even listens to. If he's Ami, he has a Right to say as he wishes, popular or not. Remember the Amis let that church picket funerals, so this artist can sing about whatever he wants.


I'm not offended by the song, I addressed the N word element of the song (go find the link and read it - it's in the other thread on this topic). As far as how women are treated, I daresay I have done a lot of work in that area well beyond rap music, and it is not particularly relevant to this thread. You're shifting goalposts and not addressing my point - which is that it's not about being offended. Actually, you just reiterated your claim that it's just people "want to get offended over everything." That's complete BS. If you go look up that post I linked in the other thread, check out KingdomOfRats' post about why objecting to "ret*d" is not about being offended, because that argument is a flimsy straw man with no substance.

Also, your argument that if he's American he has a right to say as he wishes, popular or not, is valid, but you fail to understand that sometimes saying as you wish has consequences - and by extension, I have the right to say as I wish, and I say that the use of "ret*d" is part of an overall dehumanization of people with intellectual disability and other developmental disabilities (such as autism spectrum disorders). Thus, I have the right to object to his use of that word.

Why is it that the freedom of speech types always try to use that argument to shut people up? Like I don't have freedom of speech to say "That thing you said sucks."