Autism and viewing illegal materials online, JE Robinson

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07 Aug 2013, 6:39 pm

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/my- ... alks-about

Just thought I would share this link and even though I have never personally done anything illegal online I am still not very comfortable discussing this issue, so kudos to Mr. Robinson for tackling this very delicate topic.


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07 Aug 2013, 7:42 pm

Just one more negative stereotype to paint the Autistic with onto the minds of an ignorant public. :roll:



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07 Aug 2013, 7:45 pm

Theuniverseman wrote:
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/my-life-aspergers/201308/autism-and-porn-problem-no-one-talks-about

Just thought I would share this link and even though I have never personally done anything illegal online I am still not very comfortable discussing this issue, so kudos to Mr. Robinson for tackling this very delicate topic.


I agree with him. People in general who commit a 'crime of viewing' should not be treated the same as people who commit physical sex crimes. If people with ASD are indeed more likely to commit this type of crime it's just another sign of lack of services and help for people with ASD. Maybe it's time that school psychologists start talking about sex instead of leaving teens with ASD to get by on a movie from the 1970's that they watch with their normally developing classmates or not getting any sort of sex ed at all. How simple would it be to teach them what constitutes normal sexual practices instead of just teaching them how to use a condom.



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07 Aug 2013, 9:28 pm

Prelude: When I was young there was no diagnosis for Asperger’s, and Autism was severe only, no such thing as mild.

So, when I hit my teenage years, it was simply expected that I would meet a girl, fall in love, ect....

None of that ever happened, and nobody knew why. My parents never gave me a single word of advice or encouragement. Not a jot. They simply expected me to find my way and figure it all out.

I guess that is how it normally happens. I'm making this statement to point out that Asperger’s (and I assume) Autistics cannot simply figure out on our own how life works.



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07 Aug 2013, 9:31 pm

THANK YOU MR. ROBINSON!! !! !! ! An autistic advocate says something to counter the damaging article by Cutler, and not only does it make sense, but he says things that autistics would actually be able to discuss without being completely outraged they have to prove themselves to the world that they weren't sex offenders because the mother of a famous autist made a poorly written article that said so!

It's like he actually read the post I made about being tired of NT's advocating autism/ASD and used Cutlers article as an example. This is exactly what we need. Whether I agree completely with his article or not, and whether or not he read my post, he was making valid claims, made sense, and did a good job sticking up for the community. (IMO)

I'm so glad he made this.



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07 Aug 2013, 11:03 pm

I'm reading a lot of flimsy excuses and justifications (in the article).



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08 Aug 2013, 5:15 am

Excellent article. It makes me really worried to think that something like that could happen to one of my friends.

(It's spelled "Robison" three times on that page guys, let's do the guy the honour of spelling his name correctly ;))



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08 Aug 2013, 6:41 am

I've NEVER had a sexual interest in minor.

Of course, I hate kids in general, so that may be part of it.



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08 Aug 2013, 7:22 am

I'm very sorry to say this, because it's just one more thing that makes us abnormal in comparison to NT peers, but here goes.

As I've grown older, I've come to believe that my Baptist grandma and my paternal relatives' "You're stupid, don't try" approach to me kept me out of a lot of trouble (well, except for my cousin's using the fact that I knew I had to buy friends if I wanted any to get cigarettes, alcohol, and pot).

I did not try to date. I went out one time with one boy; he tried to stick his hand down my pants. I let him-- and then I made sure I was never alone with him ever, ever again. Once I got rid of him, I wore baggy jeans, baggy t-shirts, and baggy flannels-- through the next 3 years of high school, only one other guy ever looked at me twice, and that one fell in love with my mechanical skills and sense of humor, and was respectful when I said, "I don't date."

Porn was dirty and wrong. I did not look at porn.

Now, I realize that I had some trauma and no sex drive. But how hard is it to teach a kid, if they must look at pornography, to stick to magazines that are available at the local gas station?? It's black-and-white. It costs money, means they have to leave the house and be seen buying a copy of Playboy, Penthouse, or Hustler, and means they are going to be completely left out of the Internet porn discussed by peers...

...but it's cheaper than a lawyer, perfectly well-respected "normal" people are seen buying those mags every day (DH has a subscription to Playboy; the mail lady asks me if I've read such-and-such article and usually I have), and the fact is that autie kids and young adults (and old adults, too, for that matter) are going to spend most of their lives being left out. The sooner we make peace with that, the better.

There were a lot of other things I did not do, for fear that I might get in trouble. I did not explore science and chemistry beyond the experiments we were given in school. I wanted to, but by the time I was old enough to be curious I was also terrifed of the trouble I would get in if I, say, left a burn mark on the counter playing with paper towels, mayonnaise jars, and isopropyl alcohol (which can also be considered a crude Molotov cocktail, and get you put in jail if the fire department gets called). I probably would have been perfectly safe attempting such things in the wide gravel driveway of my Dad's extremely rural property...

...but by the time I was old enough to be left home alone, I was too terrified of the risks to try.

OK, I could have been a great chemist. Maybe I'd have come up with the successor to flat-film solar panels, or invented Heelys 10 years sooner (had that idea as a kid), or figured out a cheap way to separate sea water from salt (something we're definitely gonna need if we're not going to end up feeling like we woke up one morning on Arrakis). More likely, though, is that I would have ended up a felon, whether I meant any harm or not.

The solution to the porn problem, as well as so many of the other messes HFA kids and young adults get themselves into, is to teach JUST DON'T.

It's not pleasant. As parents, you don't feel good doing it. You know that you are stifling creativity, ruining whatever great things they might do someday, teaching the child to live in fear. And you ARE doing those things.

But-- felons don't get much of a chance to find constructive outlets for creativity. I'd rather live in fear than live in prison. My life may be a sad, boxed-in, frustrated story of truncated goals and unrealized potential...

...but there are no felony charges in my story, either. I haven't made the news in good ways or bad, and I won't be remembered after I'm gone.


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08 Aug 2013, 7:32 am

More bad images oh great :roll: .


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08 Aug 2013, 8:24 am

For some people it could be easy to view illegal materials online. I see that as not a real crime but just thought police out to get people for "bad" thoughts.

Child porn involving real children is obviously bad and illegal but what about drawings? No real child was harmed there. Depending on where you live they may or may not be legal. There are other things that could be a grey area. I don't even know if there are any similar laws against fanfiction but if there are nearly every fanfic site I've ever seen has illegal content.



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08 Aug 2013, 3:10 pm

zer0netgain wrote:
I've NEVER had a sexual interest in minor.

Of course, I hate kids in general, so that may be part of it.


I've never understood why people like children with all the snot, crying, always making noise, shitting themselves, yelling, ARGGGGH!! !!
Just constant chaotic needy whining.....sheesh!

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08 Aug 2013, 3:52 pm

This article gets more positive feedback from us but not Cutler's article. :?


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08 Aug 2013, 4:43 pm

The hostility of the repondents of John's article scares me.

It also reminds me why I don't like people. They randomly hurt you just to get rid of you.

I've been trying to get into the dating scene for the last 4 years no, and have met and sometimes dated many women now. I find women crewl and mean. When they attack they go for maximum hurt, and since you've spent some time with them, they know exactly how to hurt you with maximum effect.