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07 Mar 2014, 2:47 pm

Okay, do people ever feel like money comes before like, just being part of family and helping eachother? My parents loaned me money to pay for my car insurance. I wanted to get rid of my car for awhile but my mother kept pressuring me into keeping my car and my brother would always talk to me like, "What the f**k are you thinking?" when I told him I wanted to sell my car and eventually did. I live with my parents, which I am really insecure about. My mother has pretty much forced me to borrow money several times because I wasn't able to pay my car insurance. I had preferred to let the dues stack up and pay it on my own rather than end up owing her money because I would rather owe the state money than owe my mother money because I believe that money corrupts everything. So, now I owe my parents $260. I have a job and the other day my mother said she was going to claim me on her taxes. While I was at work the other day I realized that she should take that money that she's getting from claiming me (her child, the one that she brought into this world. it's not like i f*****g asked to be born) and use that money to take away what I owe her. Seeing as how I worked for that f*****g money anyway. I could have gotten ahead a little bit towards moving out of their house. But it just seems like everytime I get an opportunity to make a decision that brings me further to moving out my mother pulls some BS like this and keeps me in the same spot I've been at. She got pissed when I sold my car (to rid myself of being forced into borrowing money from my parents). She got pissed when I moved out the first time. She get's pissed when I'm not home enough and then tells me I need to live my life. I don't f*****g get it.

The way I have been brought up and hypnotized into feeling guilty for everything I do really makes me resent my parents. Even though on the service it seems like they're "helping" me. It's really not. They make me feel like such a child. My mom has come to me crying before because she feels like once I move out she's never going to see me again. And honestly, this whole situation makes me not really want to see her because I've never been able to just be myself and now I have to f*****g pay them money that my mom forced me to borrow! I'm so frustrated! Why do people have kids. This is not love to me.

I need to get out asap.
Does anyone have any advice as to how I should interact with my parents or anything? I mostly just want to go to work and come home and not look at or talk to anyone but they're always in the front room watching TV so I can't really avoid that.



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07 Mar 2014, 4:04 pm

I'm confused.

Unless you're not in the U.S., paying car insurance has nothing to do with "the State". Are you talking automobile taxes? That's not insurance.

As far as what your mom wants to claim on her taxes, that's up to her and you can't take responsibility for that.

If, after claiming you as a dependent she then says she's wiped out the money you owe her, I wouldn't worry about it.

She made her choice.

You can't make that happen, tho', and it might not be wise for you to ask.

People are not perfect, and often they're not logical or stable. If someone is creating chaos in your life, the best thing might be to try and distance yourself.

If you're not recognized by the courts as unable to live on your own and you can earn enough to support yourself and pay rent (and eat!), you have the freedom to leave home and be on your own.

If you're able to do that, you could always try to meet with the family once in a while, maybe even on "neutral territory". Sit down to lunch together someplace. You don't have to go over there, if you think that might just provide an opportunity for chaos again, nor do you have to have them over your new place.

During such "meetings", be very careful with what you do and say so's to not add fuel to any fire that might be inclined to break out.

Try not to give them legitimate cause to feel hurt, but don't feel you have to bow to anyone's unnecessary whims either.

It sounds like your family may have a form of love for you, but there's a problem with thinking straight and maintaining a loving atmosphere. They may be carrying baggage you're not aware of.

Sometime down the road you might be able to, eventually, have them over your place, and even get together back at the family home again, but that'll be up to you. And this is all assuming you can make it financially on your own.

Getting to and from work without a car... You've got me wondering about that one, but I'm hoping you got rid of the car with all of that in mind. You haven't mentioned losing your job because of not being able to get there any more.

Oh...

As for your original question-
Yes, there are people who put money ahead of family. Your situation may not be that far gone yet, tho'. It sounds like someone's trying to help but they're also unwilling to cut the umbilical cord, nor let you make your own decisions. I don't know how old you are, but it might be you're plenty old enough to be on your own, but haven't made that clear, so "someone" is still trying to manage your life, having the feeling you need that management. It could be it's time to let them see they're wrong, if you can.

Wish you well...

EDIT:
One last thing. To avoid the matter of financial clashes, it could be time to spend NOTHING you don't absolutely have to. Eating out, buying "toys", and so on. You might do best to tighten your belt and only get what you really need to survive, and see if that helps pay your car bills when they come due. After all, if you do move out, you're likely going to have to take this tone anyway.



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08 Mar 2014, 10:06 am

ritualdrama wrote:
My parents loaned me money to pay for my car insurance. I wanted to get rid of my car for awhile but my mother kept pressuring me into keeping my car and my brother would always talk to me like, "What the f**k are you thinking?" when I told him I wanted to sell my car and eventually did.

My mother has pretty much forced me to borrow money several times because I wasn't able to pay my car insurance. I had preferred to let the dues stack up and pay it on my own rather than end up owing her money because I would rather owe the state money than owe my mother money because I believe that money corrupts everything. So, now I owe my parents $260.

I have a job and the other day my mother said she was going to claim me on her taxes. While I was at work the other day I realized that she should take that money that she's getting from claiming me (her child, the one that she brought into this world. it's not like i f***ing asked to be born) and use that money to take away what I owe her.

Seeing as how I worked for that f***ing money anyway. I could have gotten ahead a little bit towards moving out of their house. But it just seems like everytime I get an opportunity to make a decision that brings me further to moving out my mother pulls some BS like this and keeps me in the same spot I've been at.

She got pissed when I sold my car (to rid myself of being forced into borrowing money from my parents). She got pissed when I moved out the first time. She get's pissed when I'm not home enough and then tells me I need to live my life. I don't f***ing get it.

The way I have been brought up and hypnotized into feeling guilty for everything I do really makes me resent my parents. Even though on the service it seems like they're "helping" me. It's really not. They make me feel like such a child. My mom has come to me crying before because she feels like once I move out she's never going to see me again. And honestly, this whole situation makes me not really want to see her because I've never been able to just be myself and now I have to f***ing pay them money that my mom forced me to borrow! I'm so frustrated! Why do people have kids. This is not love to me.


Okay....keep it simple.

Money = control.

Lots of parents give to take care of their kids then use that "guilt" to exert control over their lives.

Often, all you can do is find a way to get out from under their roof, pay them back, and try to never go back.



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08 Mar 2014, 11:29 am

It's been my experience that a lot of family members use guilt as a method of control, please be aware of this and act accordingly.


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