There is like an entire universe I'm blind to

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TheSperg
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24 Feb 2014, 6:25 am

I can walk into a room and there is a woman in it, dressed normally. I can describe any fact about her to the best of my ability, what appears to be her age physical characteristics or race etc. We can have a short small talk discussion. Now you ask me to report on the interaction and I give you basically what occurred and what you'd like to know about her.

Now I show the video to someone else and ask them to watch it and report on what they see, and whoa they write a novel length report full of details I never even noticed. 8O

They will produce a story based on every article of clothing we are both wearing, then they will make a lot of assumptions about us and our finances based on this. They will talk about how I must view her and how she views me, and at least the part about how I view her is usually wrong beyond obvious facts. They will probably produce a detailed dossier on what they think both of our backgrounds are, our life experiences.

It just blows me away, and makes me feel very non-functional that even now there is all this stuff going over my head and this whole universe I can't see.



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24 Feb 2014, 8:25 am

Not sure what your point is.

We all notice different things in the same realitty. It might be autism related or not.

Women will notice things (about both men and women) that men dont, and vice versa. Everyone has a different pov.

I was the only White guy working in a little warehouse for a stationery store for about a year.

One day one of my coworker guys did a doubletake in my direction, and just stared at me for a moment.

He then announced "White people have big ears, and Black people have small ears. You have small ears, like a Black person!"

That moment opened up ... a whole vast new dimension of reality that I had never noticed before. How people compare in ear size. I suddenly became aware of how most folks in my caucasian family, and how most folks in my mostly White nieghborhood had bigger ears than I do. And how Will Smith and Mohammed Ali both have small ears- smaller than most White celebs, and so on.

BTW the current President. like LBJ, gets caricatured for having big ears despite being celebrated as being our "first Black president".

So apparently Im more Black than Obama because I have small ears, and he has big ears! But I digress.

One day I was moved to revive my dormant artistic avocation, and plunged into painting a portrait of a certain young lady friend. But I hit a mental roadbock in painting her likeness. Couldnt get the two halves of her slightly cocked head to balance out. Then one day I thought about the fact that (a) all artists unconsciously always draw themselves- so the problem probably has to do with that, and (b) I realized that she (being caucasian) probably has bigger ears than I do. So I looked at her snap shot, and sure enough-that was the problem- I was unconsciously sticking my own ears onto her. Once I gave her her actual larger ear -bang- the portrait fell right into place and became a masterpeice, and the roadblock was gone.



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24 Feb 2014, 10:00 am

This is slightly off topic, but related.

I've been trying to put into words what's wrong with me where social interaction is concerned.

I've decided that there's an orchestra playing, and I can hear the tune like NTs do, but there are just a few instruments playing a slight variation on that tune, to sort of spice things up.

I can't hear those instruments.

NTs hear the whole thing, and can appreciate it far better than me. They're having a richer experience, while I'm getting just the basic tune. If asked to hum it, naturally I can (because nobody would be able to hum the variation along with the main tune), but if anyone tries to ask me about the variation, I won't know what they're talking about.


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24 Feb 2014, 1:41 pm

Please don't give neurotypical persons too much credit. A lot of this seems rather superficial conclusions, and a lot of categorizing people based on appearance. It's fine if you want to view someone as upper income or lower income, as long as it's kind of a loosely held category without that much emphasis placed on it.

What I learned from one year in professional furniture sales was that the better sales people don't pre-judge in a strong way. The person who dressed modest can and perhaps might buy some of the better, more expensive furniture.



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24 Feb 2014, 1:45 pm

Sorry I have not had an experience such as you are describing.



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24 Feb 2014, 1:50 pm

Have noticed in any movie version of a book I've read, that what is shown in the movie is far greater and more complex than what I had pictured in my head.



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24 Feb 2014, 4:34 pm

Strange things can happen in the Aspie mind depending on how the disorder affects you. In my case I can totally miss what my English friend calls "the bleeding obvious" yet tell you the brand and internal construction of almost every piece of electronic equipment in the room.


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25 Feb 2014, 12:23 pm

TheSperg wrote:
I can walk into a room and there is a woman in it, dressed normally. I can describe any fact about her to the best of my ability, what appears to be her age physical characteristics or race etc. We can have a short small talk discussion. Now you ask me to report on the interaction and I give you basically what occurred and what you'd like to know about her.

Now I show the video to someone else and ask them to watch it and report on what they see, and whoa they write a novel length report full of details I never even noticed. 8O

They will produce a story based on every article of clothing we are both wearing, then they will make a lot of assumptions about us and our finances based on this. They will talk about how I must view her and how she views me, and at least the part about how I view her is usually wrong beyond obvious facts. They will probably produce a detailed dossier on what they think both of our backgrounds are, our life experiences.

It just blows me away, and makes me feel very non-functional that even now there is all this stuff going over my head and this whole universe I can't see.

I think this is basic ToM. They are projecting their world view into a situation and responding socially according to what they think the situation is.
It's like they don't really see the people in a room, but the people in a room are mirrors that reflect what is in the mind of the person viewing the situation.
I have often thought, from the way people respond to me, that they are making weird assumptions about me without even knowing me.
At least we know that we don't know what we don't know.
It's not a whole universe that you can't see, It is that you are not projecting a false universe into the real universe and you are seeing only what is actually there.