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24 Jan 2019, 3:17 pm

Microaggression

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Microaggressions are everyday verbal, nonverbal, and environmental slights, snubs, or insults, whether intentional or unintentional, which communicate hostile, derogatory, or negative messages to target persons based solely upon their marginalized group membership. In many cases, these hidden messages may:

• invalidate the group identity or experiential reality of target persons
• demean them on a personal or group level
• communicate they are lesser human beings
• suggest they do not belong with the majority group
• threaten and intimidate
• relegate them to inferior status and treatment

The most detrimental forms of microaggressions are usually delivered by well-intentioned individuals who are unaware that they have engaged in harmful conduct toward a socially devalued group. These everyday occurrences may on the surface appear quite harmless, trivial, or be described as "small slights", but research indicates they have a powerful impact upon the psychological well-being of marginalized groups and affect their standard of living by creating inequities in health care, education, and employment.

Microaggression does not include what people are thinking, but only what they actually say or do.

Examples:

• An Asian American, born and raised in the United States, is complimented for speaking "good English." (Hidden messages: You are not a true American. You are a perpetual foreigner in your own country.)

• A female physician wearing a stethoscope is mistaken as a nurse. (Hidden messages: Women should occupy nurturing and not decision-making roles. Women are less capable than men).

• A same-sex couple holding hands in public are told to not flaunt their sexuality. (Hidden messages: Same-sex displays of affection are abnormal and offensive. Keep it private and to yourselves.)

• A blind man reports that people often raise their voices when speaking to him. He responds by saying, "Please don't raise your voice; I can hear you perfectly well." (Hidden message: A person with a disability is defined as lesser in all aspects of physical and mental functioning).

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Keeping in mind all of the foregoing text, and focusing on you as a person with some form of autistic spectrum disorder, what forms of microagression have you experienced?



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24 Jan 2019, 3:39 pm

When someone says something stupid or slightly offensive about autism, I seldom get upset, I see an opportunity to set the person right about what they said in a respectful manor. I try to cover all points of view on the specific topic(eg. pro cure, vs anti).

In my personal opinion, microagressions is simply an excuse for people to be thin skinned and get upset at the drop of a hat.

The closest thing to a microagression I have experienced as a diagnosed autistic person, is the old saying "You don't look autistic.".


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24 Jan 2019, 3:44 pm

RichardJ wrote:
... the old saying "You don't look autistic".
That is a good example. It is similar to my friend, Rabbi Herschel, being told "You don't look Jewish". The hidden message being that he either is not qualified to be a Rabbi, or that Jews are not supposed to be tall, blond, blue-eyed, and with other anglic features.



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24 Jan 2019, 4:49 pm

I believe microagression theory is off the mark and nurtures a victim mentality. It masquerades as empowerment and leads people to place responsibility for their thoughts and feelings on something they can't control, other people.


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24 Jan 2019, 4:59 pm

Are you both saying something like "People who claim to be victims of microaggression are snowflakes"?

I disagree ... sort of.

While there are people who see insult in every action and a detractor behind every piece of advice, there are some acts that only the victim would notice -- a person comes out as autistic, and suddenly all of his friends and family start talking loudly, slowly, and clearly enunciating every word without realizing it, for example.

My guess is that someone has re-labeled passive-aggression and "snubs" as "Microaggression", if only to provide a seemingly new topic for a research paper.

But I'm sure that some people out there may be able to relate some personal experiences, as well.



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24 Jan 2019, 5:37 pm

People yapping about microaggressions are conducting a microaggression ... against me.

It invisibly harms me to have to listen to their self-pity, self-importance, and hypersensitivity. Over time, it discourages me from interacting socially, for fear of provoking a charge of microaggression when I least expect it.


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24 Jan 2019, 7:17 pm

I have seen the concept used to guilt trip and invalidate people.


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24 Jan 2019, 7:24 pm

The whole concept of "microaggression" is a bunch of crap.

People who speak of this concept tend to look for offense in every little thing.



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24 Jan 2019, 7:47 pm

BeaArthur wrote:
People yapping about microaggressions are conducting a microaggression ... against me.

It invisibly harms me to have to listen to their self-pity, self-importance, and hypersensitivity. Over time, it discourages me from interacting socially, for fear of provoking a charge of microaggression when I least expect it.


I actually agree with this, not sure if you were talking generally/joking or meaning it about autistic people.

I've seen it used in an anti-autistic way.

Mum's boss wrote everyone an anti bullying in the workplace email which sounds great but included things like folding arms, having hands in pockets or rolling ones eyes. Ok, I would know the last one was rude but it isn't bullying. My stepdad folds his arms because he's cold, I put my hands in my pockets when I'm cold.

I think there are 'subtle microagressions' against autistic people but they're not actually subtle as long as everyone realises autistic people aren't idiots. Like talking in a stupid slow voice at people like they're babies. Guess what, if it's so obvious an autistic person can pick up on it then a person with good social skills can definitely pick up on it so it isn't a subtle microaggression but actual passive aggressive bullying.

I get unintended things like having to put up with too bright artificial light everywhere but I wouldn't call that an aggression as nobody intends to hurt me even though they do hurt me.

I guess the closest is at the football. I told them multiple times it hurts my eyes. How much. How I would be ill for days. How I might have a meltdown. They did nothing about it. The manager comes on TV and smiles and talks about how wonderful the lights are. I'm hoping I'm off his radar and that he doesn't realise it hurts people. But the lower down people, somewhere along the line, decided they don't care if autistic people are in physical pain because something else (£££) is more important.

I picked up a lot of microaggressions when I was ill (diagnosed social anxiety which isn't the same as autism but autistic people are at higher risk of it). I have good hearing and I kept tuning into when someone (a stranger) would talk about autism. But it was just my anxiety and not real life which told me they were talking about me, in real life they were talking about someone they actually knew and I don't know how that person's autism affects them.



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24 Jan 2019, 8:18 pm

There was a poster at WP some while ago, names will not be used, who used to get offended at every bloody thing I said.

I avoided them to the best of my ability, such as not posting on their own threads or addressing them directly, but it was almost like they stalked me on general threads so they could be offended by me.

This person may not even have had autism. If that don't beat all... Anyway, they voluntarily withdrew from this site because it was constantly "triggering" them.

And that's what I mean about microaggression.


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25 Jan 2019, 12:10 am

Just as the name implies, someone taking offense by or claiming victimization from a "micro-aggression" is someone who is even taking "making a mountain out of a molehill" to the extreme. Can you imagine living in a society where everyone is offended by virtually everything that other people say or do or don't say or don't do? Wow.



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25 Jan 2019, 12:28 am

^ I honestly think we're not that far off as it is. This is something that has really taken off over the last few years.

I'm with grahambaster, Bea, kraftie, ASPOM, and Magna on this one.

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An Asian American, born and raised in the United States, is complimented for speaking "good English."

I can't help but think that a person told so should reply with "thanks, you too!" :lol:


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25 Jan 2019, 2:08 am

I suspect a lot of people on the spectrum don't experience microaggressions the same way as neurotypicals -not because they don't happen to them- but because microaggressions often rely on subtle social rules of behavior to operate. If you're like me, then those are already kind of hard to perceive without effort. For this reason I think I often miss microaggressions until people point them out to me.

I have noticed that when people mean me ill, they tend to get mad when I treat them in the same way they treat me. When people are kind or indifferent towards me, then treating them same way is actually what they want. I've used this to kind of weed out people who tend to do microaggressive or passive aggressive things. Usually they can't take what they deal out, and usually they get frustrated when I am unaffected by their actions.

Examples:

Former Boss: Mmm, that looks good! <steals several fries from my plate without asking>
Me: Mmm, so does yours! <takes a bite from his churro without asking>
<silence>

Former co-worker at a camp: Look at you rowing two big boys across the lake all by yourself! Young lady, now where on earth did you learn to operate a row boat?
Me: I think I can't remember that far back. Nice job rowing those two little girls across the lake by yourself too. Where on earth did you learn to operate a row boat?
<silence>

Neighbor (in a group text): "Hey guys, when the recycling bins get too full they're annoying to carry out, so let's save our recycling for the next week if you see that they are full. Okay? :) Thanks"
Me: "It might also help to make sure everything in the recycling bin is recyclable. I've noticed a lot of plastic bags and pizza boxes. They don't actually recycle those curbside. There's a label on the side of the can that says what can go in it. Maybe we can all check that too? :) Thanks"
Neighbor: "I doubt the problem was my one pizza box, and I don't even throw out plastic bags because I have a dog. It's also not my fault that I didn't bring the recycling out for the last two weeks when I was the only one home. I was busy and missed it. There is no need for your passive aggression, okay? Don't be a jerk."
<confused silence>

That last one still has me confused. That was last week, and I'm still mulling it over. I thought she wanted to solve the problem of the overflowing bins. I think what she actually wanted to do was blame someone else for the overflowing bins.



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25 Jan 2019, 2:17 am

Fern wrote:
I suspect a lot of people on the spectrum don't experience microaggressions the same way as neurotypicals -not because they don't happen to them- but because microaggressions often rely on subtle social rules of behavior to operate. If you're like me, then those are already kind of hard to perceive without effort. For this reason I think I often miss microaggressions until people point them out to me.

I have noticed that when people mean me ill, they tend to get mad when I treat them in the same way they treat me. When people are kind or indifferent towards me, then treating them same way is actually what they want. I've used this to kind of weed out people who tend to do microaggressive or passive aggressive things. Usually they can't take what they deal out, and usually they get frustrated when I am unaffected by their actions.

Examples:

Former Boss: Mmm, that looks good! <steals several fries from my plate without asking>
Me: Mmm, so does yours! <takes a bite from his churro without asking>
<silence>

Former co-worker at a camp: Look at you rowing two big boys across the lake all by yourself! Young lady, now where on earth did you learn to operate a row boat?
Me: I think I can't remember that far back. Nice job rowing those two little girls across the lake by yourself too. Where on earth did you learn to operate a row boat?
<silence>

Neighbor (in a group text): "Hey guys, when the recycling bins get too full they're annoying to carry out, so let's save our recycling for the next week if you see that they are full. Okay? :) Thanks"
Me: "It might also help to make sure everything in the recycling bin is recyclable. I've noticed a lot of plastic bags and pizza boxes. They don't actually recycle those curbside. There's a label on the side of the can that says what can go in it. Maybe we can all check that too? :) Thanks"
Neighbor: "I doubt the problem was my one pizza box, and I don't even throw out plastic bags because I have a dog. It's also not my fault that I didn't bring the recycling out for the last two weeks when I was the only one home. I was busy and missed it. There is no need for your passive aggression, okay? Don't be a jerk."
<confused silence>

That last one still has me confused. That was last week, and I'm still mulling it over.


I know exactly what you mean. Also I've found that the people that like to accuse others of passive aggressive behaviour are often that way themselves and they are projecting their passive aggressive motivations on to the behaviour of others. Perhaps that is your neighbour's problem, he's not used to people pushing back against his passive aggressive BS and so is projecting it onto you.



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25 Jan 2019, 2:41 am

karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
I know exactly what you mean. Also I've found that the people that like to accuse others of passive aggressive behaviour are often that way themselves and they are projecting their passive aggressive motivations on to the behaviour of others. Perhaps that is your neighbour's problem, he's not used to people pushing back against his passive aggressive BS and so is projecting it onto you.


I didn't say what I said to punish her or something. I didn't even realize it was passive aggression until she said it. I thought she wanted help solving the problem of the overflowing cans and put a :) at the end so that we would know that she meant it kindly. I had an idea that I thought might help so I said it, and I wanted her to know I meant it kindly too, so I put another :) . I think now she wanted something else. Was it to blame someone other than herself? Was it to attack me specifically? Was it something more weird like to assert dominance or something? I just don't understand.

Also, how can I tell when someone is being passive aggressive ahead of time? What is the tell-tale marker? Is there one?



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25 Jan 2019, 2:55 am

Fern wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
I know exactly what you mean. Also I've found that the people that like to accuse others of passive aggressive behaviour are often that way themselves and they are projecting their passive aggressive motivations on to the behaviour of others. Perhaps that is your neighbour's problem, he's not used to people pushing back against his passive aggressive BS and so is projecting it onto you.


I didn't say what I said to punish her or something. I didn't even realize it was passive aggression until she said it. I thought she wanted help solving the problem of the overflowing cans and put a :) at the end so that we would know that she meant it kindly. I had an idea that I thought might help so I said it, and I wanted her to know I meant it kindly too, so I put another :) . I think now she wanted something else. Was it to blame someone other than herself? Was it to attack me specifically? Was it something more weird like to assert dominance or something? I just don't understand.

Also, how can I tell when someone is being passive aggressive ahead of time? What is the tell-tale marker? Is there one?


It can be really hard to recognize in the moment, I struggle myself to recognize it and often don't until well afterwards. I'm not sure what your neighbour's motivations were, it's hard to say for such people. Maybe she thought your smilies were sarcastic? I find sometimes when I think I'm being really clear in my messaging in text people will take something I say way out of context or read into it all kinds of emotions and thoughts I wasn't at all having when I typed it that makes me wonder if my text is as clear as I think it is, or everyone is seriously paranoid and just reading all kinds of stuff into everything that isn't there. I find it just as puzzling as you do. All you can really do is let people think what they want and just go on with your own business, if they're being irrational like that. I've given up trying to understand people's reactions when they are like that, you never get a straight answer if you try to ask them anyway so it seems pointless to even bother.