Seeking an explination for varying degrees of success

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27 Oct 2013, 10:08 am

Please don't think that I'm trying to be bitter. To me, envy is a useless emotion and not a part of my mentality.

Anyway it seems that among aspies they attain varying degrees of success or well adjustedness. I've met aspies who had professional level jobs and were married with kids (though why anyone would want kids is beyond me). I've met loads of aspies in the middle like me. Ones with part time jobs who have circles of friends are relatively well adjusted and relatively well integrated into society. Apparently we serve the middle of the bell curve. Or perhaps it's just bias on my part since I mostly hang out with my peers. Then there are aspies who have severe social anxiety, total reclusion and no freinds. I haven't met one of these for obvious reasons but I've met some who come close to it.

So I wonder, are the more successful aspies just ones who are very mildly affected? This doesn't seem credible to me because the successful ones I've met seemed to be no less awkward then I am and in some cases more so. Could success in life be determined by environmental factors or circumstance or do they just work like hell to overcome their shortcomings? Or do they have a certain combination of shortcomings that can be overcome? Are there any habits the rest of us can emulate? Any thoughts?



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27 Oct 2013, 10:18 am

Mid to low degrees of affliction, coupled with mid to high degrees of determination, and with special interests being subjects that are also useful in the workplace - science, technology, engineering, and maths - often lead to greater success than high affliction, low determination, and useless interests put together.

Obviously, there are many factors involved, and likely many more factors than what I have listed; but you get the point, right?


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27 Oct 2013, 10:34 am

That makes sense. I need to get obsessed with something work related. Lately I've been obsessed with the idea of getting a better job but that's more of an obsession with the concept of getting a better job and increasing my social status instead of an applicable obsession with any particular kind of work.



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28 Oct 2013, 10:41 pm

Fnord wrote:
Obviously, there are many factors involved, and likely many more factors than what I have listed; but you get the point, right? science, technology, engineering, and maths often lead to greater success than high affliction, low determination, and useless interests put together.
Gratitude for using the word often, or frequently, and not entirely. Those very things above can lead to understanding, which can lead to exhaustion. Which then leads to burnout :arrow:



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29 Oct 2013, 11:03 pm

Skill + Will + Help + Luck, probably.


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30 Oct 2013, 4:17 am

I think the milder the sensory issues, the easier it becomes. Communication is overrated, but the ability to do well in exams and keep your head down till you get established in a career also helps.



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30 Oct 2013, 5:59 am

I know that this isn't always true, but I've found that it is to some large extent, so here's a quote:

"You know where it ends. Yo, it usually depends on where ya start." -Everlast, What It's Like



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30 Oct 2013, 3:01 pm

btbnnyr wrote:
Skill + Will + Help + Luck, probably.


This.

Being higher functioning is no doubt a help, but much is being in the right place. A strongly autistic person could do very well if he/she got an opportunity that was just right for their abilities, but the odds of that happening is much lower than a mildly autistic person finding a way to become successful.