do you feel you're being mistreated, taken advantage of?

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08 Nov 2013, 11:00 am

do you have a problem standing up for yourself, and hating yourself and others because of it? does it have anything to do with asd?
my neighbors make a lot of noise at night and lie to my face saying it's not them, or there is no noise. teenaged punks screech their lungs out after midnight and look through me like i'm thin air when i ask them to stop.
but when i feed feral cats in the yard, and the neighbors are going to have kittens because of that, they get so mad, and i retreat. they yell and get in my face. i want to punch them, but afraid i'll go to jail.
do you have this problem too?



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08 Nov 2013, 11:13 am

Big YES.



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08 Nov 2013, 11:15 am

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08 Nov 2013, 11:38 am

I'm not good at standing up for myself. I trust people too much. I don't understand people.



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08 Nov 2013, 11:38 am

I often can stand up for myself, and I get the retribution. It wasn't allowed. Would your neighbors be so courageous if 5 or 10 people with AS peacefully sitting in your yard. We will never stop this acting as individuals.



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08 Nov 2013, 12:13 pm

I used to take it very seriously. In some ways I still do. And still, I am somewhat offended and hurt. Reading Ian Fords book "A Field Guide to Earthlings"has helped me understand better why this happens.

Until reading his book, I truly was not aware how all-important the NT social status and pecking order is. And in this pecking order, with the exception of a few uber succesful autists, autistics are socially on the bottom . And there are rules on the bottom. One of them [and these are not Ians' words] is not to be an uppity autistic. An uppity autistic is one who assumes that their feelings and opinions are in any way as important as those higher in position.

unfortunately, what so often happens is that a timid autist will find their voice [and be proud of themselves for having the strength to finally do so] but be ignored, or worse, "punished" for not "staying in their place."

There are others on the bottom of the heap, many of them NT. They are the ones I feel sorry for. The vast majority of autists are innately high in integrity [compared to most NTs'] and when one of us is wrongly persecuted at least we have the knowledge that we acted with that integrity to hang onto. How sad for NTs' on the bottom who don't even have that.



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08 Nov 2013, 12:38 pm

Not all neighbors are bad by any means; I have had some very good ones in the past. Having said this, we don't control who our neighbors are. So, in my opinion, it is best not to have them at all. It's why I have chosen not to have neighbors--at least within a mile of me.

May God bless my neighbors--and keep them far from me.



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08 Nov 2013, 12:44 pm

Yes. I have a lot of men sexually attracted to me, which would be such a mystery for a person with a standoffish vibe who makes most people turn away, laugh or glare when I smile to them in the street. But then I wonder if men only like me because I look youthful, vulnerable and stupid and so they look at me and think they are in luck for somebody to have sex with.

So, I just go back to believing I'm ugly again.... :cry:


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08 Nov 2013, 3:27 pm

Thelibrarian wrote:
Not all neighbors are bad by any means; I have had some very good ones in the past. Having said this, we don't control who our neighbors are. So, in my opinion, it is best not to have them at all. It's why I have chosen not to have neighbors--at least within a mile of me.

May God bless my neighbors--and keep them far from me.


my feelings on the matter exactly!
a good neighbor is a neighbor a mile away, or a ghost. i prefer those. not half as scary as the live neighbors. i'll take the haunted house in the woods, thanks. no, not afraid, not after having to deal with my neighbors, i wont be afraid of anything.



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08 Nov 2013, 3:28 pm

vickygleitz wrote:
I used to take it very seriously. In some ways I still do. And still, I am somewhat offended and hurt. Reading Ian Fords book "A Field Guide to Earthlings"has helped me understand better why this happens.

Until reading his book, I truly was not aware how all-important the NT social status and pecking order is. And in this pecking order, with the exception of a few uber succesful autists, autistics are socially on the bottom . And there are rules on the bottom. One of them [and these are not Ians' words] is not to be an uppity autistic. An uppity autistic is one who assumes that their feelings and opinions are in any way as important as those higher in position.

unfortunately, what so often happens is that a timid autist will find their voice [and be proud of themselves for having the strength to finally do so] but be ignored, or worse, "punished" for not "staying in their place."

There are others on the bottom of the heap, many of them NT. They are the ones I feel sorry for. The vast majority of autists are innately high in integrity [compared to most NTs'] and when one of us is wrongly persecuted at least we have the knowledge that we acted with that integrity to hang onto. How sad for NTs' on the bottom who don't even have that.



very true. every word you wrote is true. thank you.



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08 Nov 2013, 3:54 pm

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do you have a problem standing up for yourself, and hating yourself and others because of it?


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08 Nov 2013, 4:14 pm

vickygleitz wrote:
I used to take it very seriously. In some ways I still do. And still, I am somewhat offended and hurt. Reading Ian Fords book "A Field Guide to Earthlings"has helped me understand better why this happens.

Until reading his book, I truly was not aware how all-important the NT social status and pecking order is. And in this pecking order, with the exception of a few uber succesful autists, autistics are socially on the bottom . And there are rules on the bottom. One of them [and these are not Ians' words] is not to be an uppity autistic. An uppity autistic is one who assumes that their feelings and opinions are in any way as important as those higher in position.

unfortunately, what so often happens is that a timid autist will find their voice [and be proud of themselves for having the strength to finally do so] but be ignored, or worse, "punished" for not "staying in their place."

There are others on the bottom of the heap, many of them NT. They are the ones I feel sorry for. The vast majority of autists are innately high in integrity [compared to most NTs'] and when one of us is wrongly persecuted at least we have the knowledge that we acted with that integrity to hang onto. How sad for NTs' on the bottom who don't even have that.


You have an extensive insight. I've been punished at my job for not "stayin in my place". I simply won't tolerate being mocked into a lesser human being, the way it is seen from NT's perspective. My integrity is simply more important than the pack.

I was really tested on this one. Give up my integrity and keep my job, or keep my integrity and lose my job. I chose the last one, because otherwise I would have no reason to keep living.



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08 Nov 2013, 4:17 pm

felinesaresuperior wrote:
Thelibrarian wrote:
Not all neighbors are bad by any means; I have had some very good ones in the past. Having said this, we don't control who our neighbors are. So, in my opinion, it is best not to have them at all. It's why I have chosen not to have neighbors--at least within a mile of me.

May God bless my neighbors--and keep them far from me.


my feelings on the matter exactly!
a good neighbor is a neighbor a mile away, or a ghost. i prefer those. not half as scary as the live neighbors. i'll take the haunted house in the woods, thanks. no, not afraid, not after having to deal with my neighbors, i wont be afraid of anything.


Just last night, I had to fend off a sick, mean raccoon. But I'll take that over a mugger, or worse, any day.



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08 Nov 2013, 4:24 pm

use house hold items to defend yourself... remember armed and dangerous scares the crap out of sheeple who bash you for your stupidity(we ain't ****ing stupid) :twisted:



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08 Nov 2013, 6:15 pm

watch this video, you will get the courage to stand up for yourself.


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-wOKrD_nRE[/youtube]