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Your age when you realized you learned to be more social
Poll ended at 02 Jan 2014, 8:34 pm
5-12 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
13-18 22%  22%  [ 6 ]
18-35 19%  19%  [ 5 ]
35-50++ 7%  7%  [ 2 ]
Can't remember but I learned 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
I haven't yet but I'm willing 26%  26%  [ 7 ]
I haven't yet but I'm not willing 22%  22%  [ 6 ]
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26 Dec 2013, 8:34 pm

.. social skills. Or at least gradual willingness. (Not forced or desperate-to-be one) Some got lucky at childhood. Some haven't done well even at age of 40+.

Question is: If NTs usually have this at childhood, or at teenage years, mostly earlier than most aspies... What/when would aspies have? I don't know when I'll willing to learn some, but I'm starting to get more curious...

I'm asking aspies who learned social skills NOT out of desperation, but learned by own usual pace. Any incentives will do (support, encouragement, inspiration... etc.) except desperation or force by another to become social.
Natural diets counts, but not prescribed drugs.


I know the answer varies, yet I'm sure to myself at age of 18, I'm not ready yet, but somewhat starting to learn. (I'm starting to come with my mom when she visit some places, to observe them out of curiosity. Asking random questions too without realizing my true intentions.) :twisted: At least my mom is ready to explain some stuffs to me...


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26 Dec 2013, 9:32 pm

This question doesn't seem specific enough for me to be able to answer.

Do you mean "more social" as in being able to interact with other people for functional reasons, or do you mean "more social" as in choosing to interact with other people for social reasons?



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26 Dec 2013, 10:48 pm

To realized that you learned being social without forcing yourself to interact be specific.

It's like realizing you're learning something you may or may not intended to learn... But mostly unknowingly willing.


Forgive my statement to my question. I haven't slept over 30hrs.


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27 Dec 2013, 12:17 am

very reluctantly willing to learn.
I just know intellectually that social skills is crucial to finding work, either for someone else or self employed, making money requires social skills.


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27 Dec 2013, 2:17 am

Edna3362 wrote:
.. social skills.

Natural diets counts, but not prescribed drugs.


For most of my life I've been very willing to learn, so I've learned things throughout my entire life - not just from one point on or anything. There were times as a teenager where I was rather frustrated and pissed off and basically told everyone to f off & I didn't care one way or the other whether I had any friends to hang out with or not - and at the time I meant it.. I wasn't in any condition to want to socialize, and nor did I want to subject them to me. I'm significantly better now, though. I found myself willing to learn a lot more when working service/sales jobs, as I had to be more successful at being social in order to earn my living.. plus I'd benefit from the added social skills, so it was sort of win win even though it was difficult to force myself to socialize at times. Other times I couldn't even force myself to, I was simply too anxious and depressed to go and do any sales work, so it wasn't always doable even if I was willing.

Over the last several months of treating myself via mostly diet & all natural treatments, I've pretty much eliminated my anxiety and have become much more naturally and intuitively social. Life is becoming much easier in this regard, and all of the things I had to learn by trial and error and from reading sales books and so forth are coming together like some sort of social magic and I'm truly enjoying myself when going out to parties and events etc. Eventually I'm sure this will all come in handy applying it to life as well as work and business. 8)

You had mentioned natural diet counting and not prescription drugs.. I don't want to sound like I'm beating a dead horse here, but click and read the link in my signature as it's all about the natural diet I've found to help reduce and eliminate my Autism and other symptoms in a BIG way. Feel free to pm me to discuss anything about it. Same goes for anyone else reading this.

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27 Dec 2013, 5:35 am

I guess I started to gain social abilities in the last few years... Around the age of 14-15.



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27 Dec 2013, 5:58 am

I started to learn social skills at the age of 30. The reason I started so late was because it was at 30 I was diagnosed with ADHD & prescribed medication to help me control it.
I had to start at the beginning, so used to play soccer with the local young kids. I learnt loads by observation & interaction.
Then as I "Grew Up in Fast>>>>Forward", so the age of the people I mixed with increased.
After a few years I was mixing with people of all ages, from 5 up to 90.
I wouldn't say that I have any friends, but then I can't seem to work out a definition of what a friend is. I do however have maybe 100 aquaitances.
Very recently I have been considering finding a partner, and have someone in mind. Psycho-sexual skills/intimacy is an area that I have not yet experienced/learnt much about.
I have just been diagnosed as having Aspergers as well as ADHD.


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I choose the actor. I observe NT's. I listen to their socializing. I practice it, so in social situations I can just emulate/mimic what is expected.
It isn't natural for me, but it enables me to "fit in".
It is VERY tiring and draining, but at least we can appear like them even though it is an act. Like being on the stage.
They can't see it is emulation, and so we are accepted.


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27 Dec 2013, 9:42 am

I'd say from 18 up 'til now (I turned 18 a month into my senior year in high school) and then I've been learning to be more social. Part of that was because I was trying to establish as much of a relationship as I could with my high school classmates before graduation.



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27 Dec 2013, 11:20 am

Again, I ask what you mean by "social skills"; that can mean many different things.



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27 Dec 2013, 12:53 pm

Different social skills develop at different stages. I socially developed typically when I was a baby, then the process seemed to slow down a little when I started school. But then I was still learning, and the teachers said I became more self-aware and more socially responsive (in other words, socially improving) each year, even though I was still always socially awkward. But there are some social things I used to do as a child that I wouldn't do now. But I didn't used to have social anxiety when I was a child like I do now. So it's hard to say an exact age when I started developing the right social skills and when I didn't.

It's a bit like when my friend's 5-year-old (NT) son was having a tantrum, and his dad said, ''come on, you're acting like a baby''. He is trying to tell his young son ''you are 5 now and so you can verbally tell me how you're feeling, unlike you could when you were 2''. So a 5-year-old has more social skills than a 2-year-old. But a 5-year-old does not have the same social skills as a 10-year-old, so you expect a 10-year-old to be able to communicate better than a 5-year-old. And then a 16-year-old has more social skills than a 10-year-old, which is why some people yell at teenagers to stop behaving like 10-year-olds if they are. But then a 25-year-old has more social skills than a 16-18-year-old, because teenagers can still be considered ''immature'' compared to a person in their 20s. So social skills develops with maturity, and social skills can also mean different things.


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27 Dec 2013, 2:22 pm

I've probably made progress almost every year, winning on some issues and sometimes losing on others. There's no sense of having "arrived."



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27 Dec 2013, 2:41 pm

Tuttle wrote:
Again, I ask what you mean by "social skills"; that can mean many different things.


The one that has something to do how NTs bond (the social-like bonding like small talks or some nuisance) and negotiate (the way they function. from diplomacy to some street market haggling). Not the basic/instinctive ones that been developed at birth :oops: or the ones you're experiencing during childhood. (the *very* basic ones like taking turns, plays, etc..)

Sorry for those who got confused though.


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27 Dec 2013, 3:10 pm

Edna3362 wrote:
The one that has something to do how NTs bond (the social-like bonding like small talks...... >


Personally I have not yet mastered "Small Talk".
In my opinion it lacks objectivity & substance, and is therefore worthless subjectice gas bagging.
My obversations whilst developing some level of social skills found it very weird how say if a kid scored a goal, he would shout "Goal!!", and then the others would say "Goal!!". They mimicked & repeated what the "Alpha male or female" had said. In doing so they were accepted by the "pack".
I also have noted in human interaction how if a person coughs/loadly throat clears, those people who consider themselves to be at a lower level in the "pack" cannot help themselves but also cough/throut clear immediately after the "Alpha male/female".
There appears to be a drive for NT's to be accepted even if the consequences of that process is that they lose ALL individuality. They became clones.


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We, the people on the Autistic Spectrum have a choice.
We can either try to "fit in" with the rest of society, or we can be so egocentric that we can't be bothered.
I choose the actor. I observe NT's. I listen to their socializing. I practice it, so in social situations I can just emulate/mimic what is expected.
It isn't natural for me, but it enables me to "fit in".
It is VERY tiring and draining, but at least we can appear like them even though it is an act. Like being on the stage.
They can't see it is emulation, and so we are accepted.