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07 Feb 2007, 9:39 pm

It seems that 1 in 3 Americans today has SOME kind of disease, and there seem to be hundreds if not thousands of people/groups/organizations/Government agencies that stand ready to do their all to make life easier for those people. Has anyone here gotten so fed up and frustrated that they wished THEY could get on this kind of ticket? Has anyone here actually done it? It sounds like 3/4 of the people here are depressed or at the end of their rope. How does an Aspie give up and play the "disease card"?



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07 Feb 2007, 9:49 pm

My NT room mate wishes he had ADD so he could get Adderall. He feels like he is at a disadvantage because so many people are on it or other drugs like it.


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07 Feb 2007, 10:47 pm

You don't necesarrily have to have ADD to get a perscription of adderral. Psychiatrists LOVE to endorse crap like that if you can give them a halfway decent reason.



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07 Feb 2007, 11:01 pm

lol @ what society has come to



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08 Feb 2007, 12:27 am

Get real folks.

As one who takes Adderall for a very real condition I can tell you that it wasn't easy getting a diagnosis nor was it easy getting a prescription. The insinuation in this thread smells.


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08 Feb 2007, 12:34 am

Eh, all this so called help is inept and insufficient where ever you look. Doesn't matter what condition you have by in large.


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08 Feb 2007, 12:55 am

tortoise wrote:
Get real folks.

As one who takes Adderall for a very real condition I can tell you that it wasn't easy getting a diagnosis nor was it easy getting a prescription. The insinuation in this thread smells.


I also take adderall for ADD but I was very surprised how easy it was to get it. I went into Health Services at my university and asked the nurse about starting the diagnosis process for ADD (which was before I started the diagnosis process for AS). She just asked me some questions from the DSM-V which I could have easily memorized the answers to, and wrote me a prescription. Later, as part of my AS diagnosis, I took an actual ADD test which confirmed that I had it.


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08 Feb 2007, 7:14 am

NeoPlatonist wrote:
tortoise wrote:
Get real folks.

As one who takes Adderall for a very real condition I can tell you that it wasn't easy getting a diagnosis nor was it easy getting a prescription. The insinuation in this thread smells.


I also take adderall for ADD but I was very surprised how easy it was to get it. I went into Health Services at my university and asked the nurse about starting the diagnosis process for ADD (which was before I started the diagnosis process for AS). She just asked me some questions from the DSM-V which I could have easily memorized the answers to, and wrote me a prescription. Later, as part of my AS diagnosis, I took an actual ADD test which confirmed that I had it.


Tortoise,

Maybe you aren't in the US. Tn the US it IS easy to get most ADD type meds. It is perhaps THE most over diagnosed illness around!

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08 Feb 2007, 7:37 am

The title sucks. A number of posts refers to ADHD which is not a disease but rather a disorder, as is Autism. The title leads one to believe that it is easy to fool professionals and recieve help when one doesn't need it.

Back to where this thread went -> There is someone's perception, then there are those who try to shape others perception, and then there is reality. Look at the literature, although there are cases of false positives for ADHD, in reality adhd is an under-diagnosed condition.

I'm also not used to communicating major ideas by anecdotal reference. If I am going to make a point about public issues, you can bet that I can back it up with solid web based citations. Anecdotal stories are chatty and interesting and have their place on a messageboard....but when posters only use anedotal references, they are inadvertently shaping opinion. Personal stories should only be used to illustrate well grounded information.

Finally, how would any one person know how easily it is to obtain a perscription across all 52 states of the USA?


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08 Feb 2007, 8:21 am

maldoror wrote:
You don't necesarrily have to have ADD to get a perscription of adderral. Psychiatrists LOVE to endorse crap like that if you can give them a halfway decent reason.


I got adderall very easy. I don't even have ADD, I just was having trouble concentrating in school. I thought, hmm maybe thats because I'm ADD so I went to the doctor and told them, hey I can't concentrate. So they asked me a few more questions about my concentration in school, gave me a diagnosis of ADD, and gave me a prescriptions.

I realized then that I am in now way shape or form ADD, I simply am AS and am bored by my classess becasue they are too easy intellectually--they simply make you do work rather than focus on actually learning challenging stuff

But tell them what they want to hear and adderall is easy to get, you don't have to get intensive psychological assessment, though I know some people actually do, its not necessary if you know you want some. I personally don't like taking it a whole lot because it makes me feel stupid. I certainly did not lie or mislead the doctors. I simply told them I couldn't concentrate and thought maybe I have ADD. they said, yup, you do. I simply realize now that its not true.



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08 Feb 2007, 1:44 pm

I think there is a drawback to ADD being overdiagnosed now. I personally think I have ADD but whenever I mention this to someone I know, they don't take me seriously. Since so many people who probably don't have it "have it", some people who legitimately do or think they do aren't taken seriously. I probably could obtain drugs but not without people I know calling shenanigans on me.



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08 Feb 2007, 4:46 pm

Does anyone read what others have to say before they post? :roll:


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09 Feb 2007, 2:25 am

tortoise wrote:
The title sucks. A number of posts refers to ADHD which is not a disease but rather a disorder, as is Autism. The title leads one to believe that it is easy to fool professionals and recieve help when one doesn't need it.

Back to where this thread went -> There is someone's perception, then there are those who try to shape others perception, and then there is reality. Look at the literature, although there are cases of false positives for ADHD, in reality adhd is an under-diagnosed condition.

I'm also not used to communicating major ideas by anecdotal reference. If I am going to make a point about public issues, you can bet that I can back it up with solid web based citations. Anecdotal stories are chatty and interesting and have their place on a messageboard....but when posters only use anedotal references, they are inadvertently shaping opinion. Personal stories should only be used to illustrate well grounded information.

Finally, how would any one person know how easily it is to obtain a perscription across all 52 states of the USA?


I could swear that the last time I was in school there was only 50 states....I feel really old


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09 Feb 2007, 2:32 am

tortoise wrote:
Does anyone read what others have to say before they post? :roll:


Not a lot of people with ADD,especially if the other posts are really long and boring)like most of mine)

I am not sure what the person is referring to.I have a DX in AS and no one is giving me jack s&(* for it.Is there some big pay check I am missing out on.I am still working,still paying my own rent.I do have several family members on disability payments for different psych and medical conditions but they had to get lawyers and fight for the benefits....I dont see them running out to buy big screen TV's with their "federal hand-outs"....they live in public housing and barely scrap by on the checks(every cost of living raise is followed by an increase in their medical co-pays.So,original poster....who is getting all these special benefits and where can I sign up for my "aspie paycheck".


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09 Feb 2007, 3:02 am

I've had one or two psych's diagnose me with ADD. I told them that they were full of it and that they could keep their drug prescription. If I have ADD then why can I spend four hours straight playing Zelda?



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10 Feb 2007, 12:58 pm

ahayes wrote:
I've had one or two psych's diagnose me with ADD. I told them that they were full of it and that they could keep their drug prescription. If I have ADD then why can I spend four hours straight playing Zelda?

Is a very common trait with ADHDers called hyperfocusing.