Autism is really becoming a trend!
Im starting to think that the autism criteria isnt being listened to anymore. People keep popping up with little to no autistic symptoms (im not talking about traits, im talking about Symptoms)
Traits, im starting to understand, can Vary, but the symptoms are ALWAYS, and i mean ALWAYS have to be the same.
i dont even know how to extend on this topic, its very very complex in my head and i dont know how else to put into words, so bare with me.
The DSM V (or IV im not good with Roman Numerals) have specific traits and also severity levels so someone with autism with different traits can fit, but, i notice some people popping up (not mentioning anyone) with very very little to no traits at all, infact, some people hear sound a lot like my sister who has Borderline Personality Disorder (paranoia, need for control of others, dislikes being around people) so, i wanna know, Whats going on? i think, even speaking for myself, people with few to little issues should maybe stop being given the Autism Diagnoses, if its too mild then maybe someone shoudlnt get the diagnoses.
i have few issues, although i cant get a job, cant go to a mainstream school and cant drive a car, compared to someone who cant talk, has little unsterstanding of the world around them and seems to have no self care once so ever, im normal compared to them! even if i cant function like An NT.
i dont know how else to put this, but, maybe i should shut up and suffer living like this and get over it? i really dont feel right recieving a diagnoses in the same area as someone with severe issues, mostly because i see people with EXTREMELY few issues that have a diagnoses, and they demand special services.
im very sorry if i offend anyone i just have a very limited way of saying this, and im starting to have a panic attack, i just dislike people looking at me and assuming i have no issues because i can talk and feed myself.
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theres another thing i wanna ask, WHY DO I FIT THE CRITERIA!? I have autism Symptoms and Traits but i can behave like an NT. so why?
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Are you calling into question the diagnoses of the people here on Wrong Planet? If so, that is more than a little offensive. Just because some of us don't fall into the more severe category of Asperger's/autism in general does NOT mean we should not have gotten a diagnosis. Personally, I feel much more relieved knowing what I have and learning to accept it.
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Autism is a spectrum of disability which may fluctuate over the course of a person's life, like it could be really bad at first but improve as the person gets older and learns to mask the symptoms, with periods of decompensation when under stress, which cause the mask to come off. The DSM-5 (which isn't written with a Roman numeral) recognizes this variation. The DSM-5 is actually more specific than previous editions, requiring both social communication impairments and restricted and repetitive behaviors and interests, whereas earlier editions required only one or the other.
(BTW, I was diagnosed with ASD (by 1990) and provided autism resource services at school (starting in 1993) before it was cool.
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Because you've learned to mask the symptoms.
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Traits, im starting to understand, can Vary, but the symptoms are ALWAYS, and i mean ALWAYS have to be the same.
No, the symptoms do not have to be the same. In the DSM-IV there was a lot of room for variation in symptoms, to the point where you could have two people diagnosed with autism and have them maybe only share a couple of symptoms from the list.
In the DSM-5 each symptom lists several elements that apply to it, so two people could have the same symptom, but meet that particular symptom criteria in different ways.
The DSM V (or IV im not good with Roman Numerals) have specific traits and also severity levels so someone with autism with different traits can fit, but, i notice some people popping up (not mentioning anyone) with very very little to no traits at all, infact, some people hear sound a lot like my sister who has Borderline Personality Disorder (paranoia, need for control of others, dislikes being around people) so, i wanna know, Whats going on? i think, even speaking for myself, people with few to little issues should maybe stop being given the Autism Diagnoses, if its too mild then maybe someone shoudlnt get the diagnoses.
DSM-5 doesn't use the Roman numeral numbering. DSM-IV-TR was the last installment to use them.
You can't really diagnose or undiagnose people from a forum. Also, you're actually talking about different personality traits, and autistic people have the full range of personality traits. Borderline Personality Disorder describes certain personality traits taken to extremes, and BPD itself does not rule out the possibility of being autistic. Also, the traits you describe are not exclusive to BPD and not even exclusive to the presence of personality disorders.
i dont know how else to put this, but, maybe i should shut up and suffer living like this and get over it? i really dont feel right recieving a diagnoses in the same area as someone with severe issues, mostly because i see people with EXTREMELY few issues that have a diagnoses, and they demand special services.
How can you tell that they have extremely few issues? What are you seeing that tells you that they're mild and deal with few problems?
I suspect most of us dislike that.
Traits, im starting to understand, can Vary, but the symptoms are ALWAYS, and i mean ALWAYS have to be the same.
i dont even know how to extend on this topic, its very very complex in my head and i dont know how else to put into words, so bare with me.
The DSM V (or IV im not good with Roman Numerals) have specific traits and also severity levels so someone with autism with different traits can fit, but, i notice some people popping up (not mentioning anyone) with very very little to no traits at all, infact, some people hear sound a lot like my sister who has Borderline Personality Disorder (paranoia, need for control of others, dislikes being around people) so, i wanna know, Whats going on? i think, even speaking for myself, people with few to little issues should maybe stop being given the Autism Diagnoses, if its too mild then maybe someone shoudlnt get the diagnoses.
i have few issues, although i cant get a job, cant go to a mainstream school and cant drive a car, compared to someone who cant talk, has little unsterstanding of the world around them and seems to have no self care once so ever, im normal compared to them! even if i cant function like An NT.
i dont know how else to put this, but, maybe i should shut up and suffer living like this and get over it? i really dont feel right recieving a diagnoses in the same area as someone with severe issues, mostly because i see people with EXTREMELY few issues that have a diagnoses, and they demand special services.
im very sorry if i offend anyone i just have a very limited way of saying this, and im starting to have a panic attack, i just dislike people looking at me and assuming i have no issues because i can talk and feed myself.
Well, I can tell you this - I've lived with it quite a bit longer than you (not diagnosed btw).
I think you are looking at it on a superficial level - if somebody doesn't look like they're affected by it, they are not affected by it.
You can see that somebody is able to work and think they are just fine, but that doesn't take into account the problems within the job because of executive problems, the social problems, the family problems, the financial problems. You just have to understand, having a job is one aspect of functioning, but a human life is so much more than that. So if I was you, I wouldn't worry too much about other people, you never know what's going on with them that you don't know about.
I have considered trying to get a diagnosis in case I could get some help - not financial, but social skill training (at my age I STILL need that).
It can be really tough and really wearing on a person's soul, especially when they don't look debilitated, but just weird and therefore they can't get the help they need. To have people tell you you're weird to your face as though you are some kind of animal that normal rules of compassion or manners don't apply to. It sucks in many respects, but some of us try not to whine too much and to make the best of our lives.
Yes I do not blame you for disliking that people think you are normal because you can talk and take care of yourself. There are many disorders in the world from ASD to social anxiety to depression and a person with any of these can look and act normal (to a degree I suppose).
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Try not to stress about how other people are living their lives. There's a lot about people that we just can't see, even if we live with them and know them well. People learn to cope with their issues, and likely so will you. Just because someone looks like they are high functioning with almost no issues doesn't mean it hasn't been a hard road for them to adapt.
Because you've learned to mask the symptoms.
why would i mask symptoms?
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Because you've learned to mask the symptoms.
why would i mask symptoms?
It's pretty common for autistic people to learn how to mask the symptoms. Many autistic people are actually taught as children in ABA to mask the symptoms.
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