when does a person become NT

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Ok,ASD is spectrum,and there different levels of ASD,
but when does the ''line'' get cross.When do
you go from Mild AS to NT,there gotta to be a Limit
to how mild a person can have asperger before
their just consider NT?

between a person who has enough traits
to be at least Mild AS vs a person who
doesn't have enough traits,but almost,
but is Just NT(but barely)

or person who almost have enough traits
to be consider Mild AS,but doesn't quite make it.

I think at the milder end it depends more on co-morbids and life circumstances, rather than you how "Aspie" or "NT" you are.

I have read on here ASD has to do with how your brain is wired. You can have aspie traits and still have an NT brain but there are some people who have aspie traits and have a different brain wiring. I think that is where they draw the line for ASD. You have to have a different brain than an NT one. My husband said the same too so I assume he has done some reading on it too.

From what I can assume, the way a person handles sensory information is a pretty big indicator of whether they are aspie or NT.

Even though I have learned how to "act" more NT over the years, the one thing that's hardly changed for me is my sensory sensitivity. I've gotten better at handling loud noises, mainly because I've learned to better "anticipate" them, but I'm still sensitive to strong odors and bright lights, I react strongly to being poked or tapped on the shoulder, and my throat and gag reflex are sensitive to the point of causing me all sorts of issues with swallowing and phlegm production and occasionally breathing (which is made even worse when combined with my sensitivity to strong odors; sometimes odors can be so strong to me that I start choking).

I am also quite prone to experiencing "sensory overloads", where I am so overwhelmed with sensory information that I become extremely anxious and lose the ability to think (the last part is a slight exaggeration, though that's honestly how I feel when I experience a sensory overload).

That's interesting. I rarely have sensory problems. When I do have them I'm either extremely tired/waking up, having a migraine or sick. I also notice that most of the sensory stuff that bothers me also bothers other people. The only consistent and abnormal sensory issue I have is sensitivity to smell. I can't stand the smell of cold food or other people's pee. Because of that I often avoid the fridge or dishes and find excuses to not let people use my bathroom.

This part in the DSM is pretty important for making a distinction:

D. Symptoms cause clinically significant impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of current functioning.

Yeah, a lot of my autism diagnosis had to do with examining my brain.
Or maybe all of it. Not just the physical brain scans, but all the aptitude and perceptual tests.
Which I still am put through annually to this day.

Depends who and how you ask.

I think if you have it it's for life, I know people get undiagnosed but they still don't seem typical.

And if you're talking about professionals making a diagnosis, it's that person's subjective opinion, in clear instances obvious, but the situation you are talking about, a professional counts what looks off and decides how much they think you have problems and then they decide whether they think those problems are or aren't due to ASD and then they say you do or don't have ASD.

They might use the screening tools and questionnaires and structured observation that is called a test. But it's still someone's interpretation of the meaning.

I think all of medicine is like that, though maybe not to such an extreme. Someone interprets a test and says what it means. A computer can do the initial interpretation as normal or not, but a person has to do the integration of information and make the final call what it means.

I find it relatively unsatisfying. But that's what is.

I don't think you ever "become NT".

Ask yourself, what is more important for you:

1. Group-Belonging, i.e. being accepted by the group.

2. Not having leaders, i.e. not putting up with bullying from more successful people (or anyone else).

The fact is, you cannot have both. The more you value number,

1. The more you are NT.

2. The more you have AS.


This emerges in the basic motivation of people:

1. NTs act so they will be accepted by the group.

2. People with AS act in order to avoid having leaders (i.e. attempt to become independent).


Whether you value group-belonging or not having leaders more is inborn. You cannot through desire truly value group-belonging more if you were born to value not having leaders, i.e. you cannot become NT if you have AS. One can attempt to do it, but one is fooling nobody but oneself.

In my opinion, when their functioning isn't significantly impaired.

Until they have brain scans that can determine if you have ASD or not, I don't really think there's a way you can be 99.99% sure.

This is just something you have made up. It has nothing to do with, well, anything really, other that your own personal theories about behaviour. It has nothing to do with autism or Asperger's.

The easiest way to decide (and of course not too accurate) is when you get a low enough score in AQ test. Like 25 or below. Above that you're probably borderline already.

Everybody on my mom's side of the family acts weird. I am hesitant to label any of them as having AS except me and my mom. All the rest have some AS traits (not normal NT's) but their AS traits are not "clinically significant", meaning they have no significant functional impairments.

When I first started exploring if I have Aspergers, I was told by a psychiatrist to be that I don't have it because I'm not "impaired" enough. As if having no friends, acting like a teenager and being bullied constantly is "normal". This is what frustrates me: an ASD is supposedly a lifelong condition but I were to suddenly become popular, that would make me "NT". Nobody has ever given me a proper explanation as to why. Besides, didn't this idiot ever stop and think that I got my good job IN SPITE of my ASD status? Seems kinda ridiculous to meet 100% of the official (and unofficial off the books) diagnostic criteria yet be originally told no because I have a full time job. So, if I am fired I'm suddenly Autistic?

I think like a lot of things in the DSM the criteria is far too vague and subjective to really tell us anything with any certainty. I'm still the same person I was when I spent three years looking for work only I got lucky and the stars aligned!

I used under the impression that if everyone accepted me and I became popular and had lot of friends all of a sudden and got treated normal like everyone else, I will be NT. But that isn't the case and I would still be me. But then that would make me wonder where are the impairments if I am not having any troubles with people because I am accepted and everyone leaves me alone? Being an adult now, I get respect and I get left alone and I wonder where are the impairments so I feel normal and no one is mean to me. My dad did tell me my life would get better after I get out of school despite seeing all the posts online by aspies about how badly they get treated at work. Okay if all of a sudden all those aspies got respect and were accepted and treated right, they would still be them, not NT. As a kid I would think they were cured and normal now because that is how I would feel about myself and think I am normal now. heck even i thought in 5th grade these kids in 6th grade who were obviously different were normal because they had friends and respect and didn't get teased or bullied and were not singled out. But they still had impairments, they still had a disability, their peers just treated them better and they were still them, not normal now. I used to wonder back then how they got other people to treat them normal and be like everyone else and how they did it. But now I know the more visible your disabilities are, the more respect and understandings you get and that was their secret formula to being normal.