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04 Feb 2014, 2:29 pm

http://tinyurl.com/q7rd9n3

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04 Feb 2014, 2:48 pm

Shocking and disgusting. I think social services slipped up. Why were such sick and twisted people allowed to share premises with this unfortunate man. Wasn't it possible that any of his family could have intervened, or that social services could have done inspection into the circumstances of his living arrangements?

Why do so many of these scumbags prey on the vulnerable and defenceless. :x



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04 Feb 2014, 2:48 pm

Jamesy wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/q7rd9n3

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Here is the same story that shows their faces.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/engl ... 922504.stm

"Sarah Bullock, who stamped on his hands causing him to fall 100ft to his death, was detained for 10 years for murder.
Her boyfriend and gang leader Darren Stewart, 30, was jailed for at least 25 years for murder. Martin Pollard, 21, was given eight years for manslaughter".

Why did she only get 10 years ?



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04 Feb 2014, 3:13 pm

One would think that Bullock, who was the one who actually killed him would get more time than the others...



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04 Feb 2014, 3:13 pm

This is one of the most sickening things I have ever read.

This is why there is a hell. For people like this.



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04 Feb 2014, 3:25 pm

My opinion is that while this is a horrible thing, it doesn't say the victim was on the spectrum.

Why is this thread posted in the Autism Discussion forum?


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04 Feb 2014, 3:38 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
Jamesy wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/q7rd9n3

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Here is the same story that shows their faces.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/engl ... 922504.stm

"Sarah Bullock, who stamped on his hands causing him to fall 100ft to his death, was detained for 10 years for murder.
Her boyfriend and gang leader Darren Stewart, 30, was jailed for at least 25 years for murder. Martin Pollard, 21, was given eight years for manslaughter".

Why did she only get 10 years ?



Cause she is a women?



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04 Feb 2014, 3:45 pm

Sethno wrote:
My opinion is that while this is a horrible thing, it doesn't say the victim was on the spectrum.

Why is this thread posted in the Autism Discussion forum?

I remember in high school there was this guy in a yearbook photo that for whatever reason the yearbook editors couldn't identify. So his name in the caption under the picture was "I. Dunno."

So that's my answer to your question. I dunno.



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04 Feb 2014, 4:07 pm

I found the article VERY shocking.

How can we as a society prevent such a thing from happening again?


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04 Feb 2014, 4:19 pm

Jamesy wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Jamesy wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/q7rd9n3

Need your views on this article?


Here is the same story that shows their faces.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/engl ... 922504.stm

"Sarah Bullock, who stamped on his hands causing him to fall 100ft to his death, was detained for 10 years for murder.
Her boyfriend and gang leader Darren Stewart, 30, was jailed for at least 25 years for murder. Martin Pollard, 21, was given eight years for manslaughter".

Why did she only get 10 years ?



Cause she is a women?


Maybe because she was "only" 16?


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04 Feb 2014, 4:31 pm

Horrible crime. I have to wonder at the family's seeming absence from his life - obviously he needed some kind of supervision. Why didn't they know of this situation before it escalated to murder?


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04 Feb 2014, 5:06 pm

Sethno wrote:
My opinion is that while this is a horrible thing, it doesn't say the victim was on the spectrum.

Why is this thread posted in the Autism Discussion forum?

can personaly remember the story and he wasnt on the spectrum,the daily mail absolutely sucks and are overdosing on political correctness; stephen didnt have learning difficulties he had learning disability-the two things are very different descriptions in the UK,he had LD which affects overall functioning level,in those circumstances he shoud have been protected under both the NHS/social services learning disability and safe guarding teams-clearly someone has made a big fck up.
it doesnt matter if he doesnt have autism,plenty of us on the spectrum have intelectual disability so can relate to him that way,and there are even plenty more on the spectrum regardless of mental capacity who have been bullied and targeted for no other reason than theyre different,we can also all relate to him given that he is a human.
its absolutely disgusting for anyone to do that to another being let alone someone who had a to limited mental capacity to fight back on their level,always felt like a sick story line from a gore film.



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04 Feb 2014, 5:29 pm

UndeadToaster wrote:
One would think that Bullock, who was the one who actually killed him would get more time than the others...


I concur. Ten years is not justice for murder, especially the murder of a completely innocent man. I wonder if she would still only have gotten ten years if she had murdered a child, for that is in effect what she did.


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04 Feb 2014, 5:52 pm

StarTrekker wrote:
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One would think that Bullock, who was the one who actually killed him would get more time than the others...


I concur. Ten years is not justice for murder, especially the murder of a completely innocent man. I wonder if she would still only have gotten ten years if she had murdered a child, for that is in effect what she did.

with all respect,she murdered a fully grown adult man with learning [US=intelectual] disability, his brain is adult sized and he will have fought his way through life just like every other adult with challenges,the only difference is he just doesnt have the same mental capacity as the average group of humanoid,seeing us as children and not vulnerable adults because we have ID is dehumanising in a way but if that wasnt how it was intended then am sorry for making that assumption.



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04 Feb 2014, 6:54 pm

KingdomOfRats wrote:
with all respect,she murdered a fully grown adult man with learning [US=intelectual] disability, his brain is adult sized and he will have fought his way through life just like every other adult with challenges,the only difference is he just doesnt have the same mental capacity as the average group of humanoid,seeing us as children and not vulnerable adults because we have ID is dehumanising in a way but if that wasnt how it was intended then am sorry for making that assumption.


Saying someone's like a child isn't dehumanizing them.

Children are human.

It's pointing out they're vulnerable and not able to look after themselves the way most adults can.

This guy obviously wasn't able to defend himself. Things wouldn't have gone as far as they did if he could. Once they started doing all that stuff to him, a "normal" adult would have taken action pretty quickly.

This poor guy was vulnerable, and in that sense, child-like.

It's not an insult. It's a recognizing of his limitations and the fact he needed protecting and support.


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04 Feb 2014, 7:05 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
Jamesy wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/q7rd9n3

Need your views on this article?


Here is the same story that shows their faces.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/engl ... 922504.stm

"Sarah Bullock, who stamped on his hands causing him to fall 100ft to his death, was detained for 10 years for murder.
Her boyfriend and gang leader Darren Stewart, 30, was jailed for at least 25 years for murder. Martin Pollard, 21, was given eight years for manslaughter".

Why did she only get 10 years ?


That's what I am wondering.


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