forget life, if i can never have a woman
At 17 years you think it is hopeless,
at 53 you feel good about having been correct.
Nah! It won't be all that bad, lots of AS females out there.
Arrgh!
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Its not just NT women that are strange, its...ALL women!
I dont get them...
Keep at it dude, and attack the problem like any other problem: research, trial and error, study, etc. etc.
Main thing: don't be afraid of rejection. (easy to say, difficult in reality). Dont take it personally when you're rejected...they don't even know you so how can it be personal...
etc etc...
Dude, you're only fricken 17.
Go down to the store, and buy yourself a nice big can of HARDEN THE **** UP. Seriously
Everyone thinks that it's easier for girls, and easier for NTs, to get into a relationship. I'm both of the above (dirty, dirty creature!) and my first relationship of any kind was at 20! It's about perseverence, self-improvement, and not sitting there feeling sorry for yourself. Want something, work your backside off until you get it!
Also, look within. If it looks like there is something wrong with the entire world, chances are the problem stems from you and you alone (I wouldn't be so paranoid if everyone wasn't out to get me syndrome anyone?). You think all girls are horrible? Chances are all girls you've come across are being turned off by SOMETHING. Have a moment to explore yourself and examine what that may be. There is no end of useful insight from the lovely people on WP; have a good read and see what they have to offer. There's so much out there that will put you on your feet.
If you want a girl, you have to look from her point of view. What do you have to offer her? She isn't going to enter a relationship for you, she'll be doing it for her. Just like you won't become someone's significant other just to make them look good. Make sure you can be that much-desired fruit from heaven for someone out there - and no, you don't have to change, you simply have to capitalise on your good points and try to take the edge of any negative points you may have (eg: body odour, perhaps? Deoderant gooooood). Example, my sarcasm (as many have noted) can be acidic, so I know to keep it in check...no one likes being sassed for no reason
And most importantly, what eipsa said - don't be afraid of rejection. 80% of people are gonna tell you to go fly a kite. Fact. Everyone goes through this. If not, either they're destined for Hollywood or they're a slapper
What's the worst that can happen? Someone doesn't want to go out with you. It's not the end of the world - she wasn't right for you anyway, saves you the problem of finding this out after months or years of dispair.
Oh, and for all you folks out there that think you're just too weird or not good enough or WHATEVER, that you'll never find someone because of this that or the other...try this on
As mentioned, I'm an NT gal. 20 years old. My current sweetheart is one of us here on WP - a 17 year old guy, AS. I'd call it love. He has his weird little nuances that I don't understand (me being one of them boring ones and all) but it makes him more interesting to me. Can an NT girl fall for an AS guy? Hell yeah. Happens quite a bit! Never give up. You will find love in the most unexpected of places. Look in your area of interest - my guy and I are obsessed with cars, and that's how we met ![]()
Go down to the store, and buy yourself a nice big can of HARDEN THE **** UP. Seriously
Also, look within. If it looks like there is something wrong with the entire world, chances are the problem stems from you and you alone (I wouldn't be so paranoid if everyone wasn't out to get me syndrome anyone?). You think all girls are horrible? Chances are all girls you've come across are being turned off by SOMETHING. Have a moment to explore yourself and examine what that may be. There is no end of useful insight from the lovely people on WP; have a good read and see what they have to offer. There's so much out there that will put you on your feet.
If you want a girl, you have to look from her point of view. What do you have to offer her? She isn't going to enter a relationship for you, she'll be doing it for her. Just like you won't become someone's significant other just to make them look good. Make sure you can be that much-desired fruit from heaven for someone out there - and no, you don't have to change, you simply have to capitalise on your good points and try to take the edge of any negative points you may have (eg: body odour, perhaps? Deoderant gooooood). Example, my sarcasm (as many have noted) can be acidic, so I know to keep it in check...no one likes being sassed for no reason
And most importantly, what eipsa said - don't be afraid of rejection. 80% of people are gonna tell you to go fly a kite. Fact. Everyone goes through this. If not, either they're destined for Hollywood or they're a slapper
Oh, and for all you folks out there that think you're just too weird or not good enough or WHATEVER, that you'll never find someone because of this that or the other...try this on
NICE discussion, and mostly right. There ARE a few things though.
1. You DO want to meet someone that isn't just looking out for his/her own interests. HECK, what if something else looks better later? Can you say DIVORCE!?
2. AS male problems aren't about having a female like/want them. Its about understanding when/how to approach, and KEEPING them. NT males act a certain way that turns women off. AS males are even more likely to act that way, etc...
Silentjohn,
If I had known this earlier, I would have tried harder earlier, and there are a number of mistakes I wouldn't have made. You are 17! Drink in the facts, and live accordingly. You might meet someone TOMORROW! HECK, maybe TODAY!
BTW I had a vision of what my life should be like. Homes now cost a LOT more! Jobs take MORE time.(It doesn't matter HOW fast you do the job) As for women? Well, all the women I found that I might like either had boyfriends or were married. Still, I don't know where I would find one I really felt had promise. I certainly don't want to get divorced. I don't want it to even be a question.
As for the idea of an AS woman, that would be appealing. She would be almost guaranteed to have some traits I would like. Still, it seems like some have other problems, and AS women are apparantly rare and may not be easy to spot.
So you can see part of MY problem.
Steve
I dont get them...
Keep at it dude, and attack the problem like any other problem: research, trial and error, study, etc. etc.
Main thing: don't be afraid of rejection. (easy to say, difficult in reality). Dont take it personally when you're rejected...they don't even know you so how can it be personal...
etc etc...
At least with some AS women you have a kind of common understanding, etc... But you're right! They're still part of like another culture. HECK, you can spot some of them even on a forum like this by word choice, etc...
But I guess that's part of the fun!
Steve
1. You DO want to meet someone that isn't just looking out for his/her own interests. HECK, what if something else looks better later? Can you say DIVORCE!?
2. AS male problems aren't about having a female like/want them. Its about understanding when/how to approach, and KEEPING them. NT males act a certain way that turns women off. AS males are even more likely to act that way, etc...
Well...I doubt anyone would even be able to kick off a relationship with anyone completely self-centred. But let's face it, humans first and foremost look out for themselves - he or she will get into a relationship with someone THEY find appropriate
It does boil down to having a woman impressed by them, doens't it though? When you think about it...all this approach technique and maintaining the interest is about making sure she doesn't think you're an idiot, or worse, hating you. Someone will fall on either side of indifferent usually...it's better to be on the 'like' side, and that's all to do with the first impression, followed by subsequent interaction. 'What reaction will this action get?'
But this is something that this forum is packed with
1. You DO want to meet someone that isn't just looking out for his/her own interests. HECK, what if something else looks better later? Can you say DIVORCE!?
2. AS male problems aren't about having a female like/want them. Its about understanding when/how to approach, and KEEPING them. NT males act a certain way that turns women off. AS males are even more likely to act that way, etc...
Well...I doubt anyone would even be able to kick off a relationship with anyone completely self-centred. But let's face it, humans first and foremost look out for themselves - he or she will get into a relationship with someone THEY find appropriate
It does boil down to having a woman impressed by them, doens't it though? When you think about it...all this approach technique and maintaining the interest is about making sure she doesn't think you're an idiot, or worse, hating you. Someone will fall on either side of indifferent usually...it's better to be on the 'like' side, and that's all to do with the first impression, followed by subsequent interaction. 'What reaction will this action get?'
But this is something that this forum is packed with
You ARE right there. You do have to have SOMETHING to offer. It should be more than just looks. And no DECENT woman, especially none I would be interested in, would want to be with an idiot.
I just want to get involved with someone that wants to get involved with someone that would:
1. be able to discuss things in a non offending intelligent matter.
2. be financially stable.
3. be happy to make the other person happy.
4. love the other person.
GRANTED, maybe I set my goals too high. I don't like the hit/miss approach too many do.
Steve
theres women out there for every1, just gotta go find them.
when you yurn 19, you can goto bars and s**t, at least you will get laid if not a long meaningful relationship.
some people find girls online, i don't know if this could ever be any good, but you could try.
also there are girls w/ AS who do exist! ![]()
There's always escorts.
Personally I can't stand bars - they are too loud and the smoke is too much for my asthma and allergies.
I'm a girl, so I wouldn't personally avail myself of an escort service. I'm just saying that there are other ways to get laid if you can't go into a bar.
That's exactly what I was about to post. SilentJohn, when you said "have a woman", I'm sure that included phyiscal intimacy, although probably not limited to that. When you turn 18, call an escort agency and set up an appointment. When the scheduled time comes, go have fun
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I feel the same way, but I have a very good attitude about it.
First of all, women sense desperation and run in the opposite direction. So, be confident but not too cocky.
Learn how to cook... every woman loves it when a man is skilled in the kitchen. It even makes up for a lack of ability to dance.
Be yourself. If she doesn't like you, you don't want her.
When you least expect it, you'll find someone who is interested. She may already be right there but admiring you from afar. Maybe she's just too shy to say anything or doesn't want to 'ruin the friendship'. You just have to keep your eyes open. Maybe someone you know can set you up?
For me and my hubby, our friends set us up because (and I quote) we were the 'two most boring people' they knew. I had no clue that he was interested in me and it took a while for me to realize that I was interested him.
Oh yeah, once you're in a relationship you may notice that many women will start to hit on you. Stay away from those women! They can only see the good in a man when he's already in a relationship and then they try to steal him. If you fall for that type of woman she gets all jealous and acts crazy. You don't want that.
