Do you feel like NT's should be the Aspie?

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19 Mar 2014, 3:53 pm

I could not figure out how to put this, but sometimes I feel like I am more "normal" than my family. When issues happen I like to solve them, my mom and sisters like to hide away, ignore and not respond if they are upset with something I said. I feel like I know as a person, they should be trying to figure out how to make things better between us not ignoring the situation till the problem "blows over". I would think anyone would like the satisfaction of the tension to be released rather than balled up and put off for another time.

I finally spoke the truth of my little sister today and my mom must not like to hear what I had to say cause now she wont respond to my texts. Like my little sister wont. I hung up during the conversation (which was me finally telling her how it was) and I did it because I knew I would not be able to stop anything else from coming out honestly if I kept on the phone. So I am now anxious, and have had a few explosive moments of frustration because I dont know whats going on , on their side of the issue. All I did was stand up for myself. I dont understand why people hide away when they hear something they dont like. Why not see an even side to the issue or work it out together? I hung up to keep the sanity, not to be angry. My own mom though, ignoring me? That seems more like a way someone with ASD would work it out. Why do I feel like they dont understand my emotions and are being selfish? I cant say anything like this to them though because then I WOULD be the selfish one in their eyes. I am tired of reaching out for my family only to be rejected and ignored. I am tired of them cowarding away whenever I need them to listen. I dont want to be frustrated anymore, I dont want to explode when my kids need me because I am to busy trying to understand why my own mom is not responding. I feel like I am alone. I would never let my children feel this alone. I would never let them go through life feeling alone like I did and my parents did to me. How can people do this to their child? Am I the NT or or they ASD as well to a different degree? I am having trouble explaining myself so if you read this and need clarification to answer, I can probably give it to you after I settle down from this. Thanks.



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19 Mar 2014, 4:06 pm

I think the reason your thread has got no replies is becuse most of us here have run into problems like that and we really do not understand the NT way of thinking.

In reply to you question people on the spectrum are in the minority and NTs are the majority that is what makes them the normal ones and us the odd ones.



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19 Mar 2014, 4:23 pm

I think "NT" is just missing one letter to say what an NT really is, a "NUT" :lol:



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19 Mar 2014, 5:14 pm

sharkattack wrote:
I think the reason your thread has got no replies is becuse most of us here have run into problems like that and we really do not understand the NT way of thinking.

In reply to you question people on the spectrum are in the minority and NTs are the majority that is what makes them the normal ones and us the odd ones.


I did not expect a lot of responses and I just put it up a few hours ago but its no big deal. I am just overwhelmed with the naive and stupidity of it all and how blind the "other side" seems to be. It is very frustrating. I guess the same could be said about me.



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19 Mar 2014, 7:09 pm

dianthus wrote:
I think "NT" is just missing one letter to say what an NT really is, a "NUT" :lol:


ahaha ahahaha
yes.
Anyway, I agree. I feel like I am the one who should be considered not with the condition of my brain making me disordered. I feel like it should be the other way around with who is the one with the disorder.


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19 Mar 2014, 7:39 pm

dianthus wrote:
I think "NT" is just missing one letter to say what an NT really is, a "NUT" :lol:


haha



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19 Mar 2014, 7:43 pm

inachildsmind wrote:
sharkattack wrote:
I think the reason your thread has got no replies is becuse most of us here have run into problems like that and we really do not understand the NT way of thinking.

In reply to you question people on the spectrum are in the minority and NTs are the majority that is what makes them the normal ones and us the odd ones.


I did not expect a lot of responses and I just put it up a few hours ago but its no big deal. I am just overwhelmed with the naive and stupidity of it all and how blind the "other side" seems to be. It is very frustrating. I guess the same could be said about me.


And serena said:

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ahaha ahahaha
yes.
Anyway, I agree. I feel like I am the one who should be considered not with the condition of my brain making me disordered. I feel like it should be the other way around with who is the one with the disorder.


What I think it really boils down to is how we all have disorderly brains, we all can be selfish, and we all can be ostracized and singled out. There is no "NT" way of thinking. Yes, there may be normative values that neurotypical people subscribe to and seem to understand while we don't. But that doesn't mean that each persons' reasoning and motivations aren't utterly unique. Here we are on wrongplanet, oftentimes talking about how petty, selfish, and ignorant "neurotypical" (there is no such thing as typical) can be when we make hasty generalizations about them all the time and have plentiful shortcomings of our own.

Yes, the frustration is real, understandable, and it is very justified in a lot of instances. What we are doing with those frustrations that isn't healthy is that we are taking them and using them to make unfair generalizations and drawing up guesses as to the motives and rationale of others that no one has a very reliable way of knowing. You could be an expert on the subject and still be way off the mark because people are just that dynamic.

What I can tell you, OP, is that although I've said all of this you still have your needs and you should definitely pursue them outright. If what you say is true then your family needs to know clearly that they are neglecting your needs and that what they are doing really is selfish. If they think you are selfish for asking that, then you need to contemplate things a bit and come up with good illustrations of why they aren't meeting your legitimate needs.


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19 Mar 2014, 7:52 pm

I think neurotypicals and neurotypical society as a whole are weird, but that's because I see things from a non-neurotypical perspective. My thoughts, opinions, dreams and aspirations seem weird to many people but perfectly normal to me, and that's because they're viewing them from an NT perspective.



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19 Mar 2014, 8:09 pm

Lukecash12 wrote:
inachildsmind wrote:
sharkattack wrote:
I think the reason your thread has got no replies is becuse most of us here have run into problems like that and we really do not understand the NT way of thinking.

In reply to you question people on the spectrum are in the minority and NTs are the majority that is what makes them the normal ones and us the odd ones.


I did not expect a lot of responses and I just put it up a few hours ago but its no big deal. I am just overwhelmed with the naive and stupidity of it all and how blind the "other side" seems to be. It is very frustrating. I guess the same could be said about me.


And serena said:

Quote:
ahaha ahahaha
yes.
Anyway, I agree. I feel like I am the one who should be considered not with the condition of my brain making me disordered. I feel like it should be the other way around with who is the one with the disorder.


What I think it really boils down to is how we all have disorderly brains, we all can be selfish, and we all can be ostracized and singled out. There is no "NT" way of thinking. Yes, there may be normative values that neurotypical people subscribe and understand that we don't. But that doesn't mean that each person's reasoning and motivations aren't utterly unique. Here we are on wrongplanet talking about how petty, selfish, and ignorant "neurotypical" (there is no such thing as typical) can be when we make hasty generalizations about them all the time and have plentiful shortcomings of our own.

Yes, the frustration is real, understandable, and it is very justified in a lot of instances. What we are doing with those frustrations that isn't healthy is that we are taking them and using them to make unfair generalizations and drawing up guesses as to the motives and rationale of others that no one has a very reliable way of knowing. You could be an expert on the subject and still be way off the mark because people are just that dynamic.

What I can tell you, OP, is that although I've said all of this you still have your needs and you should definitely pursue them outright. If what you say is true then your family needs to know clearly that they are neglecting your needs and that what they are doing really is selfish. If they think you are selfish for asking that, then you need to contemplate things a bit and come up with good illustrations of why they aren't meeting your legitimate needs.


I said the same could be said about me. In which I am saying I admit my faults but have been waiting and waiting for them to admit theirs. I only use NT and "normal" because it is all I have in my vocabulary to explain things. I quote the word normal because it is a way for me to express how I do not believe that word should exist. My family wont even sit down with me to hear about my recent diagnosis. My mom wont talk to me because she is a coward. I know this because I grew up with her. My sister is only 8 years younger than me and she is the baby of the family even though she is an adult. She can do no wrong, she disrespected me in my house, and is now even ignoring her own nephew because she is "upset" with me for a reason she wont even tell me. They all hide. I know their is no normal or NT but there is no other way to describe it for me. Thats why I also chose to say "the other side" because its the only thing I could think of. My family is no where near normal, they were perfectly fine to except my bipolar diagnosis but now that I am being honest about things and allowing myself to be who I am instead of form to their ways, they dont like it and think my diagnosis was given to me by a quack doctor. THEY DONT EVEN know what I have yet!! ! I think its because its neuro and can not be fixed. I dont think they like that I may have been born with it. I can only guess and assume till they give me answers. I am so ready to just cut them out because all they have done is give me more anxiety every time I let them back in, even a little. I am tired of them trying to control me and the outcome of my life. They do not like that I went out and got answers for myself, they were not cooperative during my evaluations and they gave me little information about my childhood. I just want parents, like the kind on t.v, like how I am to my children. They will never meet my needs because they are ignorant people, I do love them, but that does not make them less ignorant.

Sometimes I think ASD is a silly diagnosis to be honest, it does sound like a long list of selfish, the symptoms and traits, but I live it, I know its real. Its the people who dont live it that dont understand and tend to think we are one way but we really are not what they make us out to be. My mom has always had trouble with emotions, she can tell me every reason I am wrong, but when I need her comfort she shrinks away. I am overly emotional and I know I take things more seriously than most, but I could never imagine not being there for my children. Especially when I push them so hard to get "help".