Can I have Asperger's and PTSD at the same time?

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23 Mar 2014, 2:59 pm

I was wondering because my brother, mom, and I have been verbally (and physically sometimes) abused by my father since I was five. I have frequent dreams and flashbacks about his abuse; and occasionally I hear his voice even when he's not here (which is almost always.) Could I possibly have PTSD?



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23 Mar 2014, 3:05 pm

I believe so.

I think I got PTSD from being bullied at work. That corresponds to isolating a NT for a long period of time. That would likely result in PTSD too.


I do not think it takes much verbal abuse to cause PTSD in AS individuals.



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23 Mar 2014, 3:24 pm

Yes. You can have both.

People are born with ASD. But people get PTSD through their life experiences. So, like any other human being, it is possible for you to get PTSD as a result of ineffective processing of traumatic experiences. Abusive childhoods are a common cause of PTSD in my experience.


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23 Mar 2014, 3:55 pm

Yes, I VERY strongly suspect I have PTSD from childhood bullying. As I recently told someone sad to say I won't get any closure until my bullies are six feet under: preferable with me spitting on them and watching them suffer in agony before they die. I have come to accept that a)nobody REALLY understands how sadistic teenagers (boys AND girls) can be and b)most of the bullies will NEVER apologize or even believe they were in the wrong. This is one thing that sucks about being an Aspie: not being able to forget what horrific things were done to me in the name of being popular.



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23 Mar 2014, 3:56 pm

On the contrary, in my experiences, although some of it may linger from my youth, PTSD is a very effective means of processing traumatic experiences. So much so that I no longer believe it's a disorder. Quite simply, I'm still alive and if that freaks me out, well, so be it.

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23 Mar 2014, 4:16 pm

Yes. It is....The world is very cruel....Very cruel too



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23 Mar 2014, 4:20 pm

I have AS, PTSD, DID, social anxiety disorder



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23 Mar 2014, 5:34 pm

Yes, don't see why having AS means someone cannot have PTSD.

Might be wrong, but based on what have read online about people's experiences, it seems dishearteningly common for people to suffer on-going negative effects of things from the past... well, anyone suffering is one person too many really.


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23 Mar 2014, 5:47 pm

Ofcourse you could have both.

As someone above said - you're born with aspergers, but you get PTSD from traumatic life experiences. Nothing about AS would stop you from getting PTSD from traumatic experiences.



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23 Mar 2014, 6:07 pm

am elsewhere on the spectrum but am suspected to have severe PTSD-still waiting to get a full assessment though have a medication review next week hoping to get benzo diazepenes changed to another anti pyschotic and hope there is one which can manage PTSD type symptoms.
its not just flash backs that get its actualy going through the whole scene again and believing as if was back there;fighting support staff visualy and mentaly seeing them as the police in fear for life like was back when was sectioned,and if see anything related to the traumas have experienced they are triggers to this torment,am always on edge.
have always had bad flashbacks from severe childhood and adult bullying and growing up with a very difficult family life but these dont affect to the same degree as the more recent traumas with police.

so am not sure why anyone woud think a person with AS [or those elsewhere on the spectrum] coudnt have ASD when we are probably more likely to experience trauma through bullying,abuse etc than anyone.
its not a personality disorder which contradicts the traits of ASD and thus makes it extremely difficult to diagnose both [borderline pd for example],its a disorder that happens due to shtty trauma,and the trauma may be different for people with ASDs in comparison for NTs because we percieve things very differently,but PTSD is commonly scripted around common NT traumas such as rape.


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23 Mar 2014, 6:09 pm

Yes, because PTSD is a form of severe dissociation, which comes from traumatic life experiences.


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23 Mar 2014, 6:09 pm

cberg wrote:
On the contrary, in my experiences, although some of it may linger from my youth, PTSD is a very effective means of processing traumatic experiences. So much so that I no longer believe it's a disorder. Quite simply, I'm still alive and if that freaks me out, well, so be it.

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It kept me locked up in my house for two years. I still think people will kill me.

It's very dangerous for you to say it's not a disorder.

It's not effective at all. It just makes me scared of things that aren't happening anymore. It makes me want to take out people who I think could be dangerous.

Traumatic experiences can also trigger more mental illness, like bipolar.

In fact, it's a broken coping mechanism.

Most disorders usually are disorders despite what people may say.

PTSD has completely broken me, made my anxiety much harder to control and has put more barriers up for me in life.

I recall you don't have a very visual style of thinking. I'm the opposite. I have a very visual style; memories come to me like film reels. This probably makes the cause of my PTSD a much more visual and tangible experience. I have a accurate memory of voices.

Anyway, I'm not doing that bad these days. I can go out again and have to fight through the fear whenever it triggers.


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23 Mar 2014, 6:18 pm

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Most disorders usually are disorders despite what people may say.

agreed,it helps having first hand experience of said disorders or an open mind before denying someones condition which is what denying a condition amounts to [eg,ADHD for example which is obviously overdiagnosed in some age groups but significantly affects executive function amongst other things,was wrongly diagnosed with severe ADHD years ago due to having severe executive dysfunction as part of autism-which was removed from records a few years ago,but am not going around saying people who genuinely have it dont have a disorder or impairment].


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23 Mar 2014, 10:54 pm

pensieve wrote:
cberg wrote:
On the contrary, in my experiences, although some of it may linger from my youth, PTSD is a very effective means of processing traumatic experiences. So much so that I no longer believe it's a disorder. Quite simply, I'm still alive and if that freaks me out, well, so be it.

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It kept me locked up in my house for two years. I still think people will kill me.

It's very dangerous for you to say it's not a disorder.

It's not effective at all. It just makes me scared of things that aren't happening anymore. It makes me want to take out people who I think could be dangerous.

Traumatic experiences can also trigger more mental illness, like bipolar.

In fact, it's a broken coping mechanism.

Most disorders usually are disorders despite what people may say.

PTSD has completely broken me, made my anxiety much harder to control and has put more barriers up for me in life.

I recall you don't have a very visual style of thinking. I'm the opposite. I have a very visual style; memories come to me like film reels. This probably makes the cause of my PTSD a much more visual and tangible experience. I have a accurate memory of voices.

Anyway, I'm not doing that bad these days. I can go out again and have to fight through the fear whenever it triggers.


Tl;dr. I am quite aware of my own thoughts thank you. I hope you'll learn to appreciate your own resilience. To see something is to process it, it is far more dangerous to make assertions about what others have seen.


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23 Mar 2014, 11:07 pm

Probably more likely to find PTSD in individuals with ASDs due to greater levels of anxiety and whatnot (plus a higher incidence of abuse).

Yeah, I have it -- a couple of things that caused it (drug (heroin) addict father and everything that goes with that being the main one).



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10 Apr 2014, 7:07 am

Yes, PTSD is caused by a traumatic experience, anybody can experience something traumatic regardless of who they are.
I am diagnosed with PTSD, social anxiety, major depression, and agoraphobia.


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