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jinto1986
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15 Apr 2014, 2:20 pm

This is something that I have just recently noticed, now that I am starting to try to show people that Autism Speaks doesn't really speak for us, but there seems to be a religious mindset involved in all of them. Most groups, you show people that they have done wrong, they ask for it to be changed, not Autism Speaks. It seems that with Autism Speaks, you show them that Autism Speaks has done something wrong, either the thing they have done wrong is trivial (even if it is something like supporting a company that practices torture), it must be a lie (I got this a lot in an earlier conversation), or I must be evil for suggesting that Autism Speaks could do wrong. More and more I feel it is the later in almost every case. If I am right that there is a religious mindset to Autism Speaks, then I must be a demon. No matter what their faith cannot be tested by anyone else. That seems so odd to me.



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15 Apr 2014, 4:26 pm

Autism Speaks is not a true Advocacy Group, they're a moneymaking machine, disguised as a nonprofit. They don't care whether anything they say is true, they're just using the image of poor, pathetic autistic children to bilk the masses out of cash.



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15 Apr 2014, 4:41 pm

Willard wrote:
Autism Speaks is not a true Advocacy Group, they're a moneymaking machine, disguised as a nonprofit. They don't care whether anything they say is true, they're just using the image of poor, pathetic autistic children to bilk the masses out of cash.


Sounds like a lot of churches I know (and I am a Christian, so relax about that).



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15 Apr 2014, 4:47 pm

Go to "Autism Politics, Activism, and Media Representation"



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15 Apr 2014, 11:31 pm

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15 Apr 2014, 11:32 pm

Willard wrote:
Autism Speaks is not a true Advocacy Group, they're a moneymaking machine, disguised as a nonprofit. They don't care whether anything they say is true, they're just using the image of poor, pathetic autistic children to bilk the masses out of cash.


I couldn't agree more. Sociopath leadership with a cult following.



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15 Apr 2014, 11:44 pm

Rascal77s wrote:
Willard wrote:
Autism Speaks is not a true Advocacy Group, they're a moneymaking machine, disguised as a nonprofit. They don't care whether anything they say is true, they're just using the image of poor, pathetic autistic children to bilk the masses out of cash.


I couldn't agree more. Sociopath leadership with a cult following.

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16 Apr 2014, 2:05 am

What it seems to me is that Autism Speaks is against autism. As if autism is like cancer.
Like being against Autism Speaks is like being against the American Cancer Society and in favor of cancer.
My parents should support and fund Autism Speaks, so they can find a nonexistent "cure" to keep future parents form being plagued with an autistic kid like they were.



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16 Apr 2014, 5:58 am

So, how do we bring this behemoth of an organization to its knees? How do we destroy it and remove its credibility? I'm 100% serious, this needs to happen.



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16 Apr 2014, 6:49 am

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So, how do we bring this behemoth of an organization to its knees? How do we destroy it and remove its credibility? I'm 100% serious, this needs to happen.


You don't. Many of the people who support autism speaks, I'm talking about high profile and wealthy people like celebrities and politicians, don't give a crap about you. They support autism speaks, because autism is a popular issue right now and their support buys them goodwill with fans or voters or just the public in general. It's like these football players that support anti-bullying campaigns, then you read about them in the paper beating the crap out of their 120 pound girlfriend. Now I'm not saying that all people that support autism speaks are like that, I'm sure there are plenty of them that sincerely believe what they're doing is right and just never take the time to look at the books and figure out that autism speaks doesn't do s**t for autistic people.

No matter how loud you talk and no matter how factual the information you present, the public will side with autism speaks over you because they view the directors and the officers as successful normal people who are experts on the topic and they will view you as the poor, misguided autistic person that is out of touch with reality. The world doesn't revolve around being right, it resolves how you present yourself. Unfortunately, presentation is not a strong area of most autistic people. These people have politicians in their pocket now, just look at their website, you'll see what I mean. Where there's money and power like that, they would rather destroy you than give it up. I don't think you'd be able to find anyone in the mainstream media that would even have the balls to expose them for what they are.



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16 Apr 2014, 7:04 am

But there are a few autistic individuals who are able to appear outwardly competent, rational and successful, even much more so than many of the board members at Autism Speaks. Probably it's a pipe dream, but I really want someone to do something. I want to do something myself, but I'm not sure what that would be.



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16 Apr 2014, 8:50 am

Yeah, I don't really support autism speaks. They completely overlook high functioning individuals, from what I've heard at least. Correct me if I'm wrong.



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16 Apr 2014, 9:11 am

“Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket.” ― Eric Hoffer, The Temper of Our Time

I am a Christian as well and sadly this also applies to churches.



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16 Apr 2014, 11:25 am

Even before the existence of Autism Speaks, there were issues between parents of Autistic children who are severely affected, and those "closer to appearing normal" adult HFA's. Autism Speaks,in my opinion, has capitalized on this divide. The chasm is wider and uglier than it ever has been. If we can bridge that divide, Autism Speaks WILL lose their power [and the monies that could be used to truly assist Autistic people. If we don't,,it will only get worse.

How can we unite? First, though most parents of autistic kids love their children and will do anything for them, for many,taking care of their children is super hard,super frustrating work. And scary. They have REASON to worry about how their kids will be doing once they, the parents, have died.

They are beat down by all of the judgements on their parenting. Parents of NT kids worry about if they are raising their babies in the way that will be best for the child. We all worry if we are being to strict,too lenient, that we're depriving, that we're spoiling, that we're pushing too hard or not enough, and on and on. When you are the parent of an autistic child, those worries are multiplied a hundred fold. I am an Autistic parent of Autistic kids and Grandkids. I understand them in many ways that NT parents of Autistic children cannot, yet it is still so hard making decisions about their welfare.

Also, we need to understand that though we understand their kids in ways they cannot,that nobody, nobody, understands, loves, or will sacrifice like a loving parent. To imply otherwise is pretty awful.

We also need to acknowledge that most parents of Autistic children not only love their kids HUGELY, but that so did/do some of the parents who snapped and hurt or even killed their kids. We need to acknowledge that sometimes, though WRONG, from the parents sick perspective, they WERE NOT thinking of their kids not being worthy of life, but that they were honestly believing that they were giving their own lives in order to prevent their children from suffering.

We need to acknowledge that these parents [ you know,the people who, if they turned en masse from Autism Speaks that b Autism Speaks would no longer have the power they now do] do have some pretty overwhelming challenges. That does NOT mean that they consider their kids 'less than". It means that they need more support than most of them are getting. We can and should be providing that, whether it be by mentoring their kids, bringing over a casserole, volunteering to do a little house cleaning a couple hours a month, or listening to them when they are crying in exhaustion, fear, or confussion about how to be the best parents they can be.

I don't want to make everyone angry with me. Really. But sometimes it feels as though we are pushing these terrified parents [they have seen the autism Speaks commercials] straight into Autism Speaks arms. Once there,how easy to take their money ["they say it will help my baby"] to turn them against us,considering us mean people, who,like so many others, condemn their parenting, while trying to put an end to this "wonderful organization who really cares about my child."

Can't you all see what's happening,and that WE are the only ones who can change it?



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16 Apr 2014, 2:30 pm

neobluex wrote:
Go to "Autism Politics, Activism, and Media Representation"


That's a good place to get the information.


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16 Apr 2014, 2:31 pm

Also, Autism Speaks will never speak for me.


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