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05 May 2014, 11:50 am

I've noticed that people who are into drugs are never condescending towards me. I don't know exactly why that is, but I enjoy talking to druggies because of that. It makes me feel fully human and accepted.


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05 May 2014, 12:09 pm

Oh yea I can relate 100%, I feel into a druggie crowd in my teens and they were the first time I ever felt accepted and not a subject of scorn. It was actually my first foray into learning social skills, even they eventually realized I was odd but they weren't mean or cruel but accepting. I still talk to most of them, I became a druggie myself for a good while but never got into a life destroying addiction or anything.



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05 May 2014, 12:21 pm

I have experienced that sort of thing as well, but just like with any groups of people there are always some that end up being jerks which I have also ran into. But yeah a lot tend to be open minded about things in general, in my experience. Which makes for intresting conversation, and not being treated like crap because I'm 'weird' due to not being judged for it.


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05 May 2014, 12:31 pm

There are a bunch of druggies in my building that I pass when leaving through the back door and even though I am NOT into that lifestyle (I am quite square), they always treat me with respect. I think it's the same reason minorities in general do. They (the druggies) know even though I do not partake in that lifestyle I make no judgements towards them and take them at face value.



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05 May 2014, 1:12 pm

I also noticed this. I was afraid to hang out with the druggies in my high school much back then because I D.A.R.E.D. to keep myself off drugs and I was afraid I'd be tempted to try them if I did. I now very much regret that I didn't hang out with them more because they were easily the nicest people in the whole school to me. There were even some other non-druggie kids who used to hang out in that group because they were so accepting, one boy who was deaf and a girl with mild intellectual disability. Neither of them were in special ed either, yet they, like myself, were not really accepted by the other students in general. The druggies really accepted us "in-betweeners" who were sort of not one thing or another.



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05 May 2014, 1:29 pm

Being a locus of society's judgments in the public eye everyday is mutually exclusive with being judgmental. I think that a lot of people only ever downplay their drug habits so they can feel exalted.

I saw my favorite nihlist in the L&D subforum do just that yesterday.


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05 May 2014, 2:17 pm

My mother was a heroin addict and so were most of her friend and boyfriends were, and I've found that people with drug addictions run the full gauntlet of human experience but generally with a bit more extremity.

For example, one of my mother's friends who was homeless and my mum had invited to live with us waited until we were out of the house for a time, and then stole and sold everything of value he could remove from the house. I suppose fortunately most of the stuff we had my mum had already pawned to pay for her own drugs, but she mostly didn't pawn my stuff so it meant most of the stolen stuff was mine. Then a few months later he came back to our house to apologise to me, and I accepted, and then he stole my birthday money from my draws while I was in the bathroom. I was also sexually assaulted by several of my mothers drug addicted friends, and by my father and his friends who weren't drug addicted but did use a lot of drugs.

But also, some of my mothers friends went out of their way to be nice to me, and make sure I was fed even when my mother would be too out of it to care. Some of them took the time to get to know me as a person and just their friends r***ded severely autistic kid. And a few of us had serious conversations about live, and about the fact that it wasn't a great way to be raised, the way my mother raised me.

I suppose the purpose of this post for me is like, I don't think we should talk about any group as wholly bad or wholly good. Not just because it's not really fair to the people in the group. But also because it's not fair either to the people who've had bad things done to them by that group, and to people who've had great experiences with that group.



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05 May 2014, 3:01 pm

I've hung out with druggies for years. I'm not saying that was bad or good. It just happened. I was one, too, so I'm not pointing my finger. I do think I wasted years drugging, though. I sure wish I could get them back.



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05 May 2014, 3:18 pm

I was a druggie from age 19 to age 25 and took a lot of abuse and belittlement from some of them. The one glaring exception was at age 21 when I was an acid freak for about 9 months and hung out with a similar crowd. I have never felt so accepted in my whole life as I felt among those people, although some of them could be brutal to non-druggies. Perhaps it has something to do with the effect that psychedelics have on people's way of thought. I would love to be with those same people now, but as usual in life, people go their separate ways over time. One is now a lawyer, his wife is a real estate agent, another is dead (got hit by a tractor trailer a year or so later... most alive and free spirited person I ever knew) and the rest have scattered far and wide.



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05 May 2014, 5:18 pm

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I was a druggie from age 19 to age 25 and took a lot of abuse and belittlement from some of them. The one glaring exception was at age 21 when I was an acid freak for about 9 months and hung out with a similar crowd. I have never felt so accepted in my whole life as I felt among those people, although some of them could be brutal to non-druggies. Perhaps it has something to do with the effect that psychedelics have on people's way of thought. I would love to be with those same people now, but as usual in life, people go their separate ways over time. One is now a lawyer, his wife is a real estate agent, another is dead (got hit by a tractor trailer a year or so later... most alive and free spirited person I ever knew) and the rest have scattered far and wide.



the crowd that is into psychedelics is the ones to be with, pretty much my only friends are old deadheads, stay away from opiate users they turn to dirtbags the second their wallet drys up. methheads are hit and miss it depends on the person they tend to get really bad when their broke and addicted really avoid the trailer trash ones like a plague. stay far away from crackheads cokeheads are very hit and miss avoid them if you can. stoners are also very hit and miss

basically avoid the broke drug users



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05 May 2014, 5:27 pm

I know that druggies can be dangerous. I've just noticed that most of the druggies that I've talked to don't seem to notice that I'm different. I'm still in high school, so a lot of the druggies aren't that addicted yet.


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05 May 2014, 6:13 pm

Definitely relate.

Had basically no friends at all until the summer between highschool, and college, when a guy I knew in highschool phoned me up and invited me to get high, and I began to hang with him and his circle. So in college I either hung with the druggies, or with the ultra straight laced geeky trekkie/sci crowd. A few individuals besides me were also in both crowds.



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05 May 2014, 6:42 pm

I've had some good times with druggies; however, once they run out of bucks, they NEED to do dangerous things in order to get their "fix." You could get caught up with what they're doing, without you knowing it.

The cops believe in "guilt by association," unfortunately. That means, even though you don't have drugs, and don't take drugs, the mere fact of you hanging out with people who possess drugs could make you culpable and liable for arrest. Also known as "being in the wrong place at the wrong time."

I could understand why you would want to hang out with nonjudgmental people.



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05 May 2014, 7:16 pm

chris5000 wrote:
TTRSage wrote:
I was a druggie from age 19 to age 25 and took a lot of abuse and belittlement from some of them. The one glaring exception was at age 21 when I was an acid freak for about 9 months and hung out with a similar crowd. I have never felt so accepted in my whole life as I felt among those people, although some of them could be brutal to non-druggies. Perhaps it has something to do with the effect that psychedelics have on people's way of thought. I would love to be with those same people now, but as usual in life, people go their separate ways over time. One is now a lawyer, his wife is a real estate agent, another is dead (got hit by a tractor trailer a year or so later... most alive and free spirited person I ever knew) and the rest have scattered far and wide.



the crowd that is into psychedelics is the ones to be with, pretty much my only friends are old deadheads, stay away from opiate users they turn to dirtbags the second their wallet drys up. methheads are hit and miss it depends on the person they tend to get really bad when their broke and addicted really avoid the trailer trash ones like a plague. stay far away from crackheads cokeheads are very hit and miss avoid them if you can. stoners are also very hit and miss

basically avoid the broke drug users


My best friend was a methhead when I met her, and I had no clue. She didn't tell me till a few months before she stopped doing it. Now, she's on heroin. By "on it" I mean actually "ON IT" and not chipping. She still smokes weed occasionally, and had gotten off the smack for a while and was on Suboxone, but that douchebag skinhead wannabe bf of hers got her back on it.

I've mainly hung out with druggies most of my life, and been one myself for a time. I'll still dabble, but I'm not getting into the habit of doing anything. It's already hard enough to scrape up enough for a pack of cigarettes. I don't know what I'd do if I had to manage to find the money for drugs. Hell, if I'm going to tie one on I'll get $4 and go to the liqour store and buy a pint of rotgut whiskey. I've done my bff's drugs with her before, but I bought some meth once, did it that night, later that night, and the next morning, then I said forget it and actually had "leftover dope" that I ended up giving to another friend. NOBODY has "leftover drugs" ever, but yet I did. I have access to free weed anytime I want it, but I don't like weed, so I smoke it like every few years maybe. Pills would be my thing if I got on something. I love me some Adderall and Lortabs and Xanax and Ambien but can't afford them very often.


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06 May 2014, 12:13 am

Yup. This is what led me to meth when I was younger. Meth heads would actually listen to me talk about all the crazy stuff I like to talk about and actually respond.
It wasn't worth it because it ended up giving me temporary scitzophrenia with audio hellucinations and extreme paranoia. It took me a few years after getting off the stuff for my mind to get back to normal.
Anyhow, you seem really young so I just want to warn you to stay away from this crap! Actually, you should probably stay away from all drugs. I kind of wish I had.



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06 May 2014, 12:48 am

My only friends are all druggies for this reason ha. Now I'm a druggie