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DevilKisses
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12 Jun 2014, 6:05 pm

I'm going to be tested for OCD, but I'm not sure when. Probably in a few months or more because waiting lists in Canada are long. I really want my autism diagnosis to be ignored, but I know the person testing me will find out about it. I'm scared that I will go through all the trouble of being tested for OCD only to be told that it's "all part of the autism" and that autism treatments should work fine.


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12 Jun 2014, 6:24 pm

ASD = may exhibit desire for order, perfection ?
OCD = may exhibit intrusive, bothersome, undesirable desire for order ?


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12 Jun 2014, 6:27 pm

You've kinda got the treatment options mixed up; there's "some" helpful medication and CBT for OCD (though OCD is fairly treatment resistant, but you should expect some improvement), but there's really no treatment for ASDs (other than support and allowances).



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12 Jun 2014, 6:37 pm

Dillogic wrote:
You've kinda got the treatment options mixed up; there's "some" helpful medication and CBT for OCD (though OCD is fairly treatment resistant, but you should expect some improvement), but there's really no treatment for ASDs (other than support and allowances).

some types of medications do help with a lot of ASD traits,benefits are greater especialy for those of us with visibly obvious autism.


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12 Jun 2014, 7:24 pm

Pehaps while you're there getting tested for OCD you could ask to be tested for ASD as well, thereby un-diagnosing yourself.


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12 Jun 2014, 8:04 pm

StarTrekker wrote:
Pehaps while you're there getting tested for OCD you could ask to be tested for ASD as well, thereby un-diagnosing yourself.

She's an OCD specialist, so I don't think she's qualified to test ASDs.


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12 Jun 2014, 8:27 pm

KingdomOfRats wrote:
some types of medications do help with a lot of ASD traits,benefits are greater especialy for those of us with visibly obvious autism.


Of course. I'm rocking Valium and Seroquel for predominately autistic symptoms.

It's just that there's a ton of medication therapy options for OCD that are the first line of treatment. They rarely prescribe stuff for ASDs for first line treatment unless tertiary symptoms are marked.



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12 Jun 2014, 9:36 pm

Isn't the main difference between OCD and ASD the fact that when you are seeking order and perfection in ASD, it is not based in a need to eradicate germs and doesn't exhibit intrusive and controlling thoughts? Like thoughts about hurting someone you love that you can't stop thinking?

ASDs OCDs can both be very disruptive in seeking order and perfection, especially as children, but OCD seems to be more based on intrusive thought patterns and a fear of germs etc?



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12 Jun 2014, 10:02 pm

OCD = anxious and obsessive thoughts that you don't like (and seriously affect you), with some form of compulsion you do that helps alleviate said anxiety and obsession

The thoughts and compulsions can be anything really, though there's often similar themes.

Fairly easy to distinguish between that and an ASD.



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12 Jun 2014, 11:37 pm

It's not just about germs and cleaning. It could be about anything. Google search HOCD if you want to learn more.


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12 Jun 2014, 11:45 pm

DevilKisses wrote:
It's not just about germs and cleaning. It could be about anything. Google search HOCD if you want to learn more.


Oh, I see.

Got me researching and thinking maybe I'm more OCPD than Aspie then?

I read somewhere that people with Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder (not OCD) can appear Aspie in many ways except in the theory of mind, social awkwardness etc. But I did and do have some social issues still.

DevilKisses, is it possible it may be OCPD, not OCD, that you are wanting diagnosed? Since you were diagnosed Aspie, they could have mistaken Autism for OCPD & social issues, since there seems to be a consensus that OCPD is not present in children, only young adult and up. There is some evidence that suggests that OCPD also has a genetic factor and causes similar problems Asperger's does. Just a thought...



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13 Jun 2014, 12:00 am

I don't think I have OCPD. I don't care about how orderly my environment is. I just have horrible OCDish obsessions. My OCD obsessions center around my sexuality, music taste and glasses prescription. It kind of alternates, but all the obsessions kind of feel the same.


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13 Jun 2014, 12:08 am

Fair enough - sounds like your concerns are quite valid. I wouldn't mention the Autism diagnoses unless they explicitly ask. If they do ask, give them reasons why you don't think what you have relates to your previous diagnoses (maybe make a list in her head, just in case). If the psych is a decent one, they will listen to your concerns.

Good luck!



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13 Jun 2014, 12:18 am

DevilKisses wrote:
I don't think I have OCPD. I don't care about how orderly my environment is. I just have horrible OCDish obsessions. My OCD obsessions center around my sexuality, music taste and glasses prescription. It kind of alternates, but all the obsessions kind of feel the same.


Have you taken the Yale-Brown Obsessive Compulsive Scale (Y-BOCS)? You can find a version of this test via Google.

This test was administered during my diagnosis, though I was not diagnosed with OCD.

Good luck.



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13 Jun 2014, 12:38 am

Rocket123 wrote:
DevilKisses wrote:
I don't think I have OCPD. I don't care about how orderly my environment is. I just have horrible OCDish obsessions. My OCD obsessions center around my sexuality, music taste and glasses prescription. It kind of alternates, but all the obsessions kind of feel the same.


Have you taken the Yale-Brown Obsessive Compulsive Scale (Y-BOCS)? You can find a version of this test via Google.

This test was administered during my diagnosis, though I was not diagnosed with OCD.

Good luck.

I took that test on two different websites. I scored 21 on one and 23 on another. I mostly suffer from obsessions, invasive thoughts and ruminations. I don't really do much compulsions and I have a hard time defining what compulsions are. I do however spend hours online reading and writing about my current obsession. Right now I'm obsessed with possibly being asexual.


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13 Jun 2014, 1:44 am

DevilKisses wrote:
I mostly suffer from obsessions, invasive thoughts and ruminations. I don't really do much compulsions and I have a hard time defining what compulsions are. I do however spend hours online reading and writing about my current obsession. Right now I'm obsessed with possibly being asexual.


I presume you believe it's OCD because you don?t want these thoughts (as they are invasive and cause feelings of anxiety). Correct?

For me, I have obsessions, but I sort of enjoy them.