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DrAlan
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03 Jan 2019, 9:42 am

Here’s an odd one, and I’m wondering if it has anything to do with autism or not.

Sometimes I notice my inner voice (the one that is effectively me talking to myself but not out loud) has an odd feature. It pronounces words almost phonetically, so for instance “it’s time to go to sleep” sounds like “it’s time to go to slee-ee-p”.

Other examples:
“Measure the height” -> “hi-ge-hut”
“Order a steak” -> “stay-ack”

Just me?


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03 Jan 2019, 9:52 am

If I'm looking for scissors, my inner voice thinks "Where are the skissors?"
If I need a knife my inner voice thinks something like "Where did I put that kuh-niff-ee?"
"I need to make a shed-yool" when i need to figure out what my schedule is, etc etc.

I had absolutely no idea that other people did this and my mind is kind of blown right now. :lol:



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03 Jan 2019, 9:55 am

OMG KingExplosionMurder I wonder if we’ve discovered something????

What you describe is exactly what I mean.

Also, when I try to get the inner voice to “talk properly” it resists and exaggerates the oddness.....


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03 Jan 2019, 11:09 am

DrAlan wrote:
OMG KingExplosionMurder I wonder if we’ve discovered something????

What you describe is exactly what I mean.

Also, when I try to get the inner voice to “talk properly” it resists and exaggerates the oddness.....



Dude SAME!! ! Because of this internal voice I do a lot of word play when I speak. It's moreso a stim when i do it out loud though. For example when I say things out loud I'll repeat the word, but change the first letter or something. ( so washing machine, for example, would become mashing wachine, or bashing bachine, so on and so forth.) SOmetimes I mess with words so much it ends up being an entirely different thing than the original phrase. :lol:

But maybe you're right...perhaps we HAVE discovered something.... :)



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03 Jan 2019, 12:16 pm

Ha - reminds me of the number of times I've rehearsed my order at a fish and chip shop and internally it sounds like "Fwish and chwips" and I'm worried it will come out like that :-). And washing machine reminds me of how the noise that the was cylce makes sounds like "Help me/Help me/Help me" on each spin of the drum 8O


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03 Jan 2019, 2:13 pm

KingExplosionMurder wrote:
If I'm looking for scissors, my inner voice thinks "Where are the skissors?"
If I need a knife my inner voice thinks something like "Where did I put that kuh-niff-ee?"
"I need to make a shed-yool" when i need to figure out what my schedule is, etc etc.

I had absolutely no idea that other people did this and my mind is kind of blown right now. :lol:


A thousand years ago they DID pronounce it "kuh-niff-ee" in AngloSaxon England .

If you were foreign born then you might well have seen words like "knife" , and "scissors", in print before you ever heard anyone utter the words. In which case the phonetic pronunciation based upon the actual spelling might well be imprinted on your mind because you might well have attempted to pronounce the words (at least in your head) before you had heard folks use the words in speech . But if you are native born to an English speaking country there is no way that you would have encountered common words like "knife" and "scissors" in print before hearing them uttered in your early childhood. So I dunno.



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03 Jan 2019, 7:15 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
KingExplosionMurder wrote:
If I'm looking for scissors, my inner voice thinks "Where are the skissors?"
If I need a knife my inner voice thinks something like "Where did I put that kuh-niff-ee?"
"I need to make a shed-yool" when i need to figure out what my schedule is, etc etc.

I had absolutely no idea that other people did this and my mind is kind of blown right now. :lol:


A thousand years ago they DID pronounce it "kuh-niff-ee" in AngloSaxon England .

If you were foreign born then you might well have seen words like "knife" , and "scissors", in print before you ever heard anyone utter the words. In which case the phonetic pronunciation based upon the actual spelling might well be imprinted on your mind because you might well have attempted to pronounce the words (at least in your head) before you had heard folks use the words in speech . But if you are native born to an English speaking country there is no way that you would have encountered common words like "knife" and "scissors" in print before hearing them uttered in your early childhood. So I dunno.




yes, i'm a native english speaker. I don't really know why i think in this was but it doesn't really bother me much.



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03 Jan 2019, 7:33 pm

I suspect you are hearing your Autistic inner voice. Generally we are taught to speak before we learn how to read. But according to Jason Lu, it should be the other way around for Autistics. We are trained to speak too early and as a result we learn incorrectly how to speak many words. Once you learn something it is very difficult to unlearn it, to correct it. So our speech is affected. We have to relearn how to speak all over again. [That is why many of us need some speech therapy.] This flaw would be corrected if we learned to read first and speak a little later.


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