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lastcrazyhorn
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01 Jun 2008, 10:14 am

Most kinds of exercise result in depression for me. When I say depression, you should read "suicidal urges." As soon as I get back in from exercising, I start feeling the urge to do something like shove a knife in my jugular.

Is this just me?


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01 Jun 2008, 10:24 am

I don't get suicidal, but how I feel depends on how I exercise. Done properly, aerobic exercise should leave you less stressed, refreshed, more coordinated. That means warming up, not going beyond your comfort zone, cooling down, breathing comfortably through your nose the whole time. When I go at it right, I do end up feeling good. When I push myself too hard, though, I can end up feeling more stressed.

Maybe you're working yourself too hard, or doing a form of exercise that doesn't really suit you? Surely there ought to be something that actually makes you feel more empowered, not less? Sometimes going for a long walk/hike is the only thing that keeps me sane.



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01 Jun 2008, 10:32 am

Similar results as Anemone. Do it too hard and it's no good.

I made another maybe relatd observation: When my food level is too low I get depressed. To eat something often helps. It seems to me, as if "depression" may under some circumstances be a form of your body to switch in a "low energy mode".

Maybe some vitamin & mineral products can help somehow too...


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01 Jun 2008, 10:33 am

Well, walking, running and biking all leave me feeling this way. I don't do much swimming (I'm so pale I blend in with the walls). And I'm not coordinated enough to do any sports. I feel suicidal while I do sports. And my doc is always on me to get heart healthy yada yada. *sigh*


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01 Jun 2008, 10:34 am

PilotPirx wrote:
Similar results as Anemone. Do it too hard and it's no good.

I made another maybe relatd observation: When my food level is too low I get depressed. To eat something often helps. It seems to me, as if "depression" may under some circumstances be a form of your body to switch in a "low energy mode".

Maybe some vitamin & mineral products can help somehow too...


I have a weird relationship with food. I'm one of those aspies who just doesn't get hungry all of that often. And if I try to eat when I'm not hungry, I gag.

But maybe I'll try some vitamins/minerals.


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01 Jun 2008, 11:02 am

lastcrazyhorn wrote:
I have a weird relationship with food. I'm one of those aspies who just doesn't get hungry all of that often. And if I try to eat when I'm not hungry, I gag.

But maybe I'll try some vitamins/minerals.


Yes, same with me (without the gag part). That's how I found out. I can go days without food or very few of it. But some years of self observation showed, that lack of energy influences my temper at least to some degree. I'm definitely more apt to fall for bad moods and depressions, whithout proper food.

If you try vitamin/mineral products, get them from a sport shop, where they sell them for body builders. They're more expensive than the supermarket stuff though.
And if you're a bad eater, you may lack those substances anyway, doing sports or not. Even if fruit and vegetables are a good part of your dietary you'll most likely not get enough.


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01 Jun 2008, 11:11 am

I try and eat at least twice a day. I just don't limit myself to mealtimes.


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01 Jun 2008, 11:50 am

PilotPirx wrote:
Similar results as Anemone. Do it too hard and it's no good.

I made another maybe relatd observation: When my food level is too low I get depressed. To eat something often helps. It seems to me, as if "depression" may under some circumstances be a form of your body to switch in a "low energy mode".

Maybe some vitamin & mineral products can help somehow too...


Agreed. This sounds like a blood sugar problem. I exercise like a fiend every day and it keeps me sane, but let me go too long without proper food and I start to spontaneously melt down. If your doctor's on you to keep fit, you should describe this phenomenon to him/her.



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01 Jun 2008, 1:15 pm

Personally, I feel exercising is very beneficial. I exercise regularly and view it as my medicine.




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01 Jun 2008, 7:10 pm

I usually feel better from exercise. Could it be from being out in the sun? -- sometimes I've noticed sensory pain (like from light) feels like emotional pain; life will feel all unbearable, then I put on sunglasses and the feeling evaporates. (and then I feel ridiculous)



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01 Jun 2008, 7:58 pm

Depends on the exercise.

Walking makes me feel good. Swimming is fun. Horseback riding is awesome.

But crunches, sit-ups, exercise bikes, all that stuff? I have to force myself to do that. Meaning that I feel terrible about my body after.

Not suicidal, but still.


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02 Jun 2008, 12:59 am

Apple_in_my_Eye wrote:
I usually feel better from exercise. Could it be from being out in the sun? -- sometimes I've noticed sensory pain (like from light) feels like emotional pain; life will feel all unbearable, then I put on sunglasses and the feeling evaporates. (and then I feel ridiculous)


Dark or light tend to have no effect on the issue either way.


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02 Jun 2008, 1:04 am

lastcrazyhorn wrote:
Well, walking, running and biking all leave me feeling this way.


Maybe those three forms of exercise just aren't the right kind for you. I used to run because I knew I needed the exercise until one day I realized I just hated it, and therefore would never do it again. I then discovered yoga, and it was the perfect exercise for me. Good for destressing, too.



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02 Jun 2008, 4:42 am

Not directly depressed through exercise. But I've never felt this endorphin rush that people are supposed to get after exercise. In fact, I generally feel physically sick after exercise and can take a couple of hours of total rest to recover.

I don't understand these people I see jogging along, faces distorted in agony, looking about to collapse. Apparently they go through a 'pain barrier' and afterwards feel much better. My body doesn't work like that, I just get sick!

Something else that may be to do with AS, only I've never heard anyone else mention it, is that my body can't make muscle. I once spent two years doing physical, out of doors work. I lost some weight, but just could not make any muscle.

I've tried gym sessions, martial arts, sports, all of which I'm useless at then I end up depressed due to the humiliation of being worst in class and just not getting any fitter. I will never go to a gym again for this reason. I found I was having to set every machine to the lowest setting to even begin to move the thing. The strong young men and ladies hanging around eventually start to give me funny looks and appear embarrassed by my pitiful efforts.

Now that did make me feel depressed! Maybe this is similar to what you're describing, it's not the chemical process making you depressed, but the whole miserable social thing of sports and fitness?


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02 Jun 2008, 7:13 pm

That's definitely not me. I get excited about my fitness routine, and after I'm done, look forward to the next session of it. The only regular depressing part is the tedium that I go through before the routine (parking my car, puting on the hydration pack and headphones, stretching etc). If the pavement is wet and I can't go around it, or if there's a lot of gravel thrown onto it, I can get annoyed. Humidity sucks, and mid-day sun forces me to wear a hat. If the weather is good, then from the time I start rolling it isn't long before I get into a groove, and I could probably go for many hours if I didn't limit myself to just a 60 minute session.

Examine the exercise routine, notice the non-fitness parts that you don't like and then make the appropriate alterations. Or since you probably don't have a routine, figure out an activity that you enjoy doing, then start doing it on a regular basis. If the problem is related to being around people, then find something with few/no people around.

Eat something light beforehand such as a rice-cake or some other small serving of complex carbs. Alternatively, you can buy carb gels that are perfect for keeping you from feeling hungry during the workout. The Carb-boom brand comes in very natural-tasting varieties, such as the apple, which is easy to mistake for apple pie filling. Eat a piece of fruit afterwards, and then a sensible meal when you start to feel hungry.


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