dsm5 vs dsm4

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how is the dam 5 criteria different from dsm4? witch one would you prefer? I like the names of dsm4 with the dsm5 descriptions . it is better because it is the seprite categories llike classic autism and aspersers, I like autistic disorder better then the asd label.

They did the right thing with the DSM V in merging the diagnoses, as I straddled the line between HFA and Aspergers in the DSM IV. I'm basically Aspergers but with a language delay, so ASD makes sense for me.

I'm basically Aspergian with a rather severe language delay myself. Was classically autistic in a clinical sense until the acquisition of speech.

I think DSM V is overly vague. I still think, at times, that Asperger's is somewhat of a different condition than HFA. DSM V is a reaction against "over-diagnosis," perhaps. It also places people with sensory differences in a separate category than the Autistic. From anecdotal accounts here, I believe sensory differences are actually a significant component of autism.

I'm glad to know I'm not the only one. Apparently I didn't speak until I was 3, and my speech wasn't frequent until I was 4 and a half. Whenever I did speak however, it was intelligible, and often in full sentences. I never really did "baby talk", I just went straight to speaking actual words.

I used to believe that Aspergers and HFA were two different, but similar things, but the more I think about it, the more similar they are. It could be said that people with Aspergers are more sociable and linguistic, but then you also have to take into account how many asocial aspies there are, and how many, like yourself and I, have had some form of a language delay. For me, it just seems like Aspergers is a "cooler" way of saying I'm autistic, one which evokes images of figures like Sheldon Cooper or Bill Gates, because as we all know, "autistic" has become kind of a loaded term, and it is unfortunately widely used as an insult online.

I'm actually rather surprised the DSM-V lists sensory issues as being separate from autism, because in my view, it is one of the main symptoms. I had a language delay, and I have sensory issues to go along with my general awkwardness, so someone can't simply walk up to me and tell me I'm not autistic due to all of the adaptations I have learned and have me believe them, because there is enough evidence out there to prove that I am autistic. My parents know this, my grandparents know this, and my old teachers know this. If you've witnessed my life from the time I was born until my late childhood, it's pretty damn obvious. I may have gotten better at hiding it as I've gotten older, but there was a time where I stuck out like a sore thumb.

Whew, I went on a bit of a tangent there. That's just the kind of mood I'm in right now.

I didn't speak until I was 5. Apparently, I bypassed most of the "linguistic" stages, straight to full, conversational sentences.

There is the notion that Aspergians respond better to verbal/written input, and that people with HFA are more "visual" in their learning style. I'm a person who responds quite well to written input, but rather poorly to spoken input (i.e., it's possible that I have an "auditory processing disorder"). As far as the visual realm is concerned, I am the Anti-Temple Grandin.

I agree with kraftiekortie that the DSM-5 is too vague, but I very much like its descrriptions of severity levels.

I like dealing with text and simple pictures. I don't do well with spoken instructions, or most video demonstrations. It gets really annoying when I want to learn how to do something and the only instructions I can find are on youtube. It's also annoying when I have to listen to someone doing a lecture and there is no way I can simply read it in a text form. I need to be able to process things at my own pace and be able to backtrack easily. Text and static images allow for this. I'm not good at watching or listening to things.

Where do you hear this?? That is very incorrect! Sensory diffrences is a listed in the criteria for autism spectrum disorder in the dsm 5


Unlike the dsm 4 that didn't list sensory issues as a symptom at all

I was diagnosed under DSM-IV.

I like in DSM-V that they lumped everything under autism spectrum disorder but disagree with DSM-V making it a bit harder to get a diagnosis (in my opinion).

I think it just shows the medical community really don't know much yet about autism.

I should add I actually really like and perfer the new criteria

But many people with sensory difficulties seem to be diagnosed--not with ASD, but with Sensory Processing Disorder.

seconded,its much better having everything under one generic label,it requires people to investigate individual cases because everyone differs so much rather than lazily judging everyone as having the same needs,difficulties and differences based on their classic autism,asperger,PDDNOS etc diagnosis.

am guessing there was probably pressure from governments on the DSM folks; not wanting to fork out for services.

Well am in Ireland and I am not sure if the DSM affects us in anyway but my private paid for diagnosis says Autism Spectrum Disorder.

I had no speech delay.

Low functioning high functioning Aspergers Syndrome classic autism are meaningless terms in my opinion the more I learn about the subject.

I can work however I am not independent nor can I form relationships or a social life.

What does that say for my functioning level?

Well the bits that work do work and the bits that don't work don't work.

I think Autism Spectrum Disorder is the best fit and we all have a different mix of the symptoms.

I don't think that's in the DSM-5. I don't think that has ever been in the DSM.

Sensory Processing Disorder isn't in the DSM. They tried to get it into the DSM as its own disorder, but there wasn't enough there yet. I expect it'll be added next DSM.

(As for "another variety of autism", there are studies showing differences between autism and SPD when it comes to brain structure.)

Ooops...Maybe I'm confusing it with the ICD-10

Sorry, folks.