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05 Mar 2007, 1:00 pm

latley ive been facinated with speech. ive rented language videos just to hear people talk. usually its a forein language like swedish, or norweigien. i just like the way it sounds when it comes out of peoples mouths, also i like trying to figure out how something can mean the same thing but the way you say it sounds intirely different. is learning another language hard? is it easier to speak another language than to understand it? mostley what i do is look at there mouths to see how there saying it but i can never get the accent right. and the way i say it is real blocky with no fluidity. anyone else like forigen languages?


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05 Mar 2007, 1:12 pm

I do, but I like language in general. I like the words themselves, their meanings and how you can manipulate them, the tempo and tone. Language is like music to me. I like them in the same way. I find languages easy to learn, but I'm not sure that's very Aspie to be honest. Some people here seem to have a hard time with it. I also watch the mouths when they speak it. I think we like the mechanics of language to be honest.



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05 Mar 2007, 1:20 pm

wierd moment here sometimes, i blink rapidly and shake my head really fast when im watching these language videos. it adds value to the language


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05 Mar 2007, 1:23 pm

Hi, yes I think it's common for us aspies to be fascinated with language. In the past 6 years I've become competent in German and fair in French, Spanish & Portuguese. For me, learning to read another language is a breeze - it's basically decoding! Writing isn't a big problem, either. My problems come with imitating the accent, listening comprehension, and speaking in general. I found that the same aspie problems I have with English communication (surprise!) didn't go away when I learned another language!! I found that I could communicate better with a surly German passport control officer than with a friendly German businessman sitting next to me on the flight! I was undiagnosed at the time I began foreign language study, and noticing these problems was one of the motivations for my seeking a diagnosis. What really stinks is that I often get stuck when trying to initiate a conversation with someone. I draw a blank when searching for the smalltalk words like "where, when, how," etc. and then can't really get past that, even though I'm competent in the language! Anyhoo, if English is your native language, you might want to start with German, because there's not a big accent difference (just a couple of new sounds to learn), and the vocabulary is easy to pick up because English and German are related languages. Only tough thing is the grammar - killer, but a fascinating challenge!



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05 Mar 2007, 1:30 pm

ive tried learning german in highschool. i couldnt get past calling things masculine or feminine. with no inbetween, it was too much of a struggle. im thinking about oredering this program called rosetta stone its supose to be the best program for learning a new language. if i could speak a new language it would be norweigien.


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05 Mar 2007, 1:54 pm

My mother, who's an aspie, is a language genius. She can learn a language after being in a country for a week.
I, on the other hand, can't learn languages to save my life. Partly it's because I have CAPD which interferes with hearing foreign languages. I took French for 6 years in school, and when I got to France it all still sounded like gibberish.



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05 Mar 2007, 1:57 pm

I was going to study language in college before realizing that mathematics was better for me. I learned basic Spanish in about a month. I can repeat most things phonetically if I listen closely. I can recite entire songs in Japanese but have no idea what they mean :)



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05 Mar 2007, 4:23 pm

love languages!

once you learn what words = what... it's all about clustering them together... is often why foreign people have grammatical rouble with english, cause it's so different than the thought pattern for most romance langueages (and i'm sure others)

i can easily read most romance langues... the only ones i have trouble reading are russian/romanian cause they have WAY different spelling and i've never taken time to sit down and look at the language and how it's written... i do however, hear romanian pretty well at least... due to having friends who speak it... i actually have a "written" form of it in my head where i am making up my own written versoin of it so that it's more comparable to the other languages i have studied. i actually kinda don't want to sit down and relearn it all (of what i got)

my language skills ranked: reading>hearing(lol-watching mouths)>writing>speaking

for the mouth watching thing... i find i have trouble mouth reading a lot of foreigners cause they tend to keep their mouths closed more as opposed to english speakers... like their upper lip is less expressive or something and i have trouble understanding them.

i have trouble making my own sentenes and such caues i have trouble recalling words... when ppl speak, it's kinda easy to decipher, but i hae extreme problems going the other way... and i often have trouble keeping my languages straight... like i'll say a sentence that actually mixes languages... and i'll often mishear people in different languages (even if i know they only speak one)

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05 Mar 2007, 6:42 pm

Actually, I ALWAYS wanted to learn German. Never really had a chance when I was younger. :cry: It turns out that, as a little kid, I even took a spanish class. The teacher must have REALLY made an impression on me. I remember thinking she was STUPID, the books were overly simple, etc... I must not have thought too much about study there as I forgot about it later, and I guess only remembered it a few months ago.(I tried to basically scan my memory, MAN did I have fun doing that! I kind of gave myself a rest though, and never got back to it.) Anyway, when I finally studied German, I learned the bulk of it in a year. Meanwhile, I learned Danish! I even took a German II and III class with As and Bs! I think it IS an AS strength though. BTW Quick Quiz! What Gender is a female human? MASCULINE/FEMININE/or NEUTER? Answer? ALL of the above!

Das Baby(NEUTER)
Der Backfisch(Silly little girl MASCULINE)
Das Fraeuline(Young Woman NEUTER)
Die Frau(Woman FEMININE)

Don't you love it! And the sentence structure of German is some of the hardest of any wet european language!

Anyway, I have a fair amount of knowledge now about English, German, Danish, Spanish, French, Hindi.(Ordered by fluency)

BTW I tend to keep it pretty straight. I find the ease is:

Reading->Writing->Speaking->Listening Of course, Hindi is a bit harder to read since the alphabet is VERY different.

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05 Mar 2007, 7:18 pm

I love the way languages sound, too.
For instance, when I'm really tired, I can't help but listen to the people talking on the TV in the next room. Therefore, I detach my mind from language and continue listening to the TV, but I cannot understand what they are saying. It's really hard and it takes a little while, but I do it, on average, 1-2 times a week. at that point, I can listen to English the same way I would listen to Norweigan or Japanese, and it is so cool!!
It's like turning the language switch [/i]off[i] in my brain.


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05 Mar 2007, 8:18 pm

cellogirl42 wrote:
I love the way languages sound, too.
For instance, when I'm really tired, I can't help but listen to the people talking on the TV in the next room. Therefore, I detach my mind from language and continue listening to the TV, but I cannot understand what they are saying. It's really hard and it takes a little while, but I do it, on average, 1-2 times a week. at that point, I can listen to English the same way I would listen to Norweigan or Japanese, and it is so cool!!
It's like turning the language switch [/i]off[i] in my brain.


YIKES! And here I have been trying to do the OPPOSITE! I always considered picking the words from the sound to be one of the hardest parts. Luckily, it is a LOT easier now.

BTW I never said it before.... I have been complimented on my danish accent by about 12 native speakers! Two French speakers thought my accent was good there. I think my German accent is OK. I think my Spanish accent is PASSABLE. Not great, but OK. As for Hindi? That has yet to be seen. 8-(

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05 Mar 2007, 8:28 pm

I have often thought that I would make a good linguist analysis expert!

-I am forever 'diciphering' language nad thier origin ... how it equates to another language etc.

Maybe that dude -Daniel ,, in StarGate - he is probably Autistic in nature. -- actually in the movie, and first episodes of Stargate he is an ASPIE ,,, it's just that after life experience from gun fights to First loves ... he wheens alot of it out of himself,,, and you can see his traits are alot less pronounced as you travers the Stargate episodes to today.