10 Mar 2015, 2:38 pm
I do, and tie it directly with my Aspergers.
A... People lie. (On a number of occasions, people in a position to help say something to indicate that they will follow through. Instead, they drop the ball and I never hear from them again.)
B... People act friendly or interested, but I find out later (on at least 3 occasions) that they stabbed me in the back. Or they didn't really care. Two people I thought were friendly acquaintances were put up by a 3rd party to ask questions about private matters in my life so that they could use it against me. It is a complicated situation, but the 3rd party stood to benefit psychologically - the end result, I became alienated from everyone.
C... I try to seek mental health care, and the end result is more drugs with devastating side effects (I'm already on a cocktail of psychotropic medications and struggle daily with the debilitating side effects. It is a vicious cycle... 
)
D... Life is just generally overwhelming. I have physical problems as well as mental health issues and seem, more than most people, to be unable to tolerate physical discomfort. It is frustrating and maddening, on top of life seeming overwhelming and pointless overall.
E... The end result of crying out for help (my personal experience has been) is to be told to take MORE PILLS. For example, I'm on an SSRI (in addition to other meds) - I'm told to consider increasing the dose. There is no real help or solution. Nobody can come out here and help me with my daily life. It is all about getting the pills adjusted. That really is the end result.
I have not encountered any philosophy or helpful idea that convinces me that life is any more than an overwhelming struggle of pain and torment in a cold and pitilessly indifferent universe. Most arguments to the contrary feel like a mind game. Seriously.
And I apologize if this post is full of self-pity, but I have nowhere else to vent. I can't articulate how bleak things feel. Science is no comfort. Horrible things happen. And we, as Aspies and Auties are often misunderstood and somehow infinitely more vulnerable.
TO ME, the world is hopelessly cold, inhospitable and cruel. To someone else, this will not be the case.
I feel that the struggles of Aspergers is partly "not having the social stuff to EARN other people's care and concern" .
I don't think I'm a bad person. But I'm frequently misunderstood. People misread my motives. I often find myself, reasonable intentions included----suddenly, inexplicably alone.
10 Mar 2015, 3:16 pm
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10 Mar 2015, 8:58 pm
No.
I am my world. I control it. =)
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11 Mar 2015, 12:43 am
existentialterror wrote:
I do, and tie it directly with my Aspergers.
A... People lie. (On a number of occasions, people in a position to help say something to indicate that they will follow through. Instead, they drop the ball and I never hear from them again.)
B... People act friendly or interested, but I find out later (on at least 3 occasions) that they stabbed me in the back. Or they didn't really care. Two people I thought were friendly acquaintances were put up by a 3rd party to ask questions about private matters in my life so that they could use it against me. It is a complicated situation, but the 3rd party stood to benefit psychologically - the end result, I became alienated from everyone.
C... I try to seek mental health care, and the end result is more drugs with devastating side effects (I'm already on a cocktail of psychotropic medications and struggle daily with the debilitating side effects. It is a vicious cycle... )
D... Life is just generally overwhelming. I have physical problems as well as mental health issues and seem, more than most people, to be unable to tolerate physical discomfort. It is frustrating and maddening, on top of life seeming overwhelming and pointless overall.
E... The end result of crying out for help (my personal experience has been) is to be told to take MORE PILLS. For example, I'm on an SSRI (in addition to other meds) - I'm told to consider increasing the dose. There is no real help or solution. Nobody can come out here and help me with my daily life. It is all about getting the pills adjusted. That really is the end result.
I have not encountered any philosophy or helpful idea that convinces me that life is any more than an overwhelming struggle of pain and torment in a cold and pitilessly indifferent universe. Most arguments to the contrary feel like a mind game. Seriously.
And I apologize if this post is full of self-pity, but I have nowhere else to vent. I can't articulate how bleak things feel. Science is no comfort. Horrible things happen. And we, as Aspies and Auties are often misunderstood and somehow infinitely more vulnerable.
TO ME, the world is hopelessly cold, inhospitable and cruel. To someone else, this will not be the case.
I feel that the struggles of Aspergers is partly "not having the social stuff to EARN other people's care and concern" .
I don't think I'm a bad person. But I'm frequently misunderstood. People misread my motives. I often find myself, reasonable intentions included----suddenly, inexplicably alone.
A... People lie. (On a number of occasions, people in a position to help say something to indicate that they will follow through. Instead, they drop the ball and I never hear from them again.)
B... People act friendly or interested, but I find out later (on at least 3 occasions) that they stabbed me in the back. Or they didn't really care. Two people I thought were friendly acquaintances were put up by a 3rd party to ask questions about private matters in my life so that they could use it against me. It is a complicated situation, but the 3rd party stood to benefit psychologically - the end result, I became alienated from everyone.
C... I try to seek mental health care, and the end result is more drugs with devastating side effects (I'm already on a cocktail of psychotropic medications and struggle daily with the debilitating side effects. It is a vicious cycle...
) D... Life is just generally overwhelming. I have physical problems as well as mental health issues and seem, more than most people, to be unable to tolerate physical discomfort. It is frustrating and maddening, on top of life seeming overwhelming and pointless overall.
E... The end result of crying out for help (my personal experience has been) is to be told to take MORE PILLS. For example, I'm on an SSRI (in addition to other meds) - I'm told to consider increasing the dose. There is no real help or solution. Nobody can come out here and help me with my daily life. It is all about getting the pills adjusted. That really is the end result.
I have not encountered any philosophy or helpful idea that convinces me that life is any more than an overwhelming struggle of pain and torment in a cold and pitilessly indifferent universe. Most arguments to the contrary feel like a mind game. Seriously.
And I apologize if this post is full of self-pity, but I have nowhere else to vent. I can't articulate how bleak things feel. Science is no comfort. Horrible things happen. And we, as Aspies and Auties are often misunderstood and somehow infinitely more vulnerable.
TO ME, the world is hopelessly cold, inhospitable and cruel. To someone else, this will not be the case.
I feel that the struggles of Aspergers is partly "not having the social stuff to EARN other people's care and concern" .
I don't think I'm a bad person. But I'm frequently misunderstood. People misread my motives. I often find myself, reasonable intentions included----suddenly, inexplicably alone.
It is objectively true that the human world is vile, cruel, and (drumroll...please) in-humane. Now there's a laugh.
11 Mar 2015, 12:49 am
11 Mar 2015, 1:37 am
11 Mar 2015, 2:34 am
(A fault in my posts, aside from their stupid longwindedness, is my unfortunate tendency to make them all sound like "Me, me, me." I don't mean to change the topic to my own problems whatsoever. It's just this is my way of empathizing and trying to show that I understand, by offering my own perspective. You can feel free to disregard it if you wish.)
I don't so much feel the world is "cold, inhospitable, and cruel" as I feel I just...don't belong in it. Like I came along too late in the game to be of any use to anyone or anything, all the helpful roles have already been filled, everyone has been paired off already, and the world has moved on without me. To someone in such a position, the world might seem like it's being cold, inhospitable, and cruel, when in truth it's just indifferent. It doesn't know about me and, if it did, it has no reason to care. Why should it? What do I offer it that's of any use? Nothing. I am too insignificant to matter. I'm an ant scurrying to get out of the way while a human walks by, not even seeing me. Nine times out of ten that person isn't intending to be cruel if they accidentally step on me, they just didn't even know I was there, because I had nothing useful to offer them.
Or, as you yourself put it...
existentialterror wrote:
I feel that the struggles of Aspergers is partly "not having the social stuff to EARN other people's care and concern" .
Individuals, now...individuals are often cold, inhospitable, and cruel. I know this from repeated experience. I try not to hold the world responsible for the actions of the few (who seem like way too many) I've had bad luck with, though it's hard not to take it personally when you just never fit in.
That isn't to argue with the way you're feeling, though, because the main reason I'm even replying at all (I don't interact here much, so far
) is because so many points in your post struck a chord. I too have had lots of people either lie to me or just stop caring and drop the ball/leave me hanging. I too have been stabbed in the back by people I THOUGHT were my friends. I too have the swarms of physical, health, mental, and sensory issues that seem to bother me far more than they would bother others (and there's little empathy to be had aside from "Get used to it"). I too have had the psychiatric/therapeutic community try out all sorts of useless drugs on me (don't get me started on SSRIs) and then, when "Get out and talk to people!" didn't cure my crippling social anxiety, shrug their shoulders and tell me to be grateful I'm not homeless and have books I can read, there's nothing more they can do for me since I must not want to get better, now please sign these dismissal forms and leave so somebody more promising--and useful to the world--can get my therapy time instead. When you have not one but TWO psychologists--plus +25 years' worth of "friends"--give up on you after promising you that you do matter, well...it's hard to believe there is any place in the world for you. And that's what makes the world seem so cold, inhospitable, and cruel. The individuals in it who drop the ball and leave you hanging.*deepbreath*
So I definitely know that feeling. The last time I was happy? I was around twelve. I'm 38 now. I doubt I'm ever going to get much of that happiness back.
It was probably only my naivete that made me happy, and that's long gone too. But for some reason, I keep this stupid little bit of hope that is probably entirely misleading and wrong, but I guess I'm just too lonely to give it all up just yet.I don't even ask the world to care about me, anymore, even though it would be nice. As long as I have nothing to offer it, I can understand why I have no place. It sucks, but I understand. But I would settle for a few individuals in that world caring about me, instead. It's better than absolutely nothing, and when you're in total despair you could really use the support. A caring compatible individual or two can do wonders in a world that seems cold, inhospitable, and cruel.
Now, to find such people...I have zero advice for that, since I'm still searching.
...
That was sappy... ;_; I find that, unfortunately, I'm usually the sappy wannabe idealist whom the more realistic people on forums can't stand, so please forgive me if all my words do is induce mental gagging.
Plus, the next time I have a negative social experience, which will probably be all too soon, my idealism will probably fly out the window. 
I just can't bear to be the type who offers nothing but doom and gloom, though, since IMO that's never very useful except in terms of pure commiserating. It's perfectly fine to vent and commiserate. But I don't want to add to the unhappiness, when I can try to offer something else, instead. (Don't most of us wish we had something useful to offer others? Or maybe that's just me. I don't know. )dryope wrote:
When it lifted after some of the stuff I was trying worked, I could still see all these horrible things, but it was like my brain was on a trampoline -- I went down and then I went up. I like the trampoline much better than the darkness.
That's lovely. I like that.
(If there is any reply to this and I don't reply back, that's nothing personal, it's my stupid avoidance. I'm a "post-and-run"-type person, for obvious reasons.
)
11 Mar 2015, 3:31 am
pirateowl76 wrote:
(A fault in my posts, aside from their stupid longwindedness, is my unfortunate tendency to make them all sound like "Me, me, me." I don't mean to change the topic to my own problems whatsoever. It's just this is my way of empathizing and trying to show that I understand, by offering my own perspective. You can feel free to disregard it if you wish.)
Yes -- me, too. I don't want to generalize based on what I know, and I can only speak to my own experience. Good disclaimer. I should use language like this as my signature.
pirateowl76 wrote:
(If there is any reply to this and I don't reply back, that's nothing personal, it's my stupid avoidance. I'm a "post-and-run"-type person, for obvious reasons. )
)Wow, the more I post here the more I feel like we're all related or something. Yes, exactly. After I post, I usually want to go run and hide.
11 Mar 2015, 4:50 pm
11 Mar 2015, 5:37 pm
pirateowl76 wrote:
(A fault in my posts, aside from their stupid longwindedness, is my unfortunate tendency to make them all sound like "Me, me, me." I don't mean to change the topic to my own problems whatsoever. It's just this is my way of empathizing and trying to show that I understand, by offering my own perspective. You can feel free to disregard it if you wish.)
I don't so much feel the world is "cold, inhospitable, and cruel" as I feel I just...don't belong in it. Like I came along too late in the game to be of any use to anyone or anything, all the helpful roles have already been filled, everyone has been paired off already, and the world has moved on without me. To someone in such a position, the world might seem like it's being cold, inhospitable, and cruel, when in truth it's just indifferent. It doesn't know about me and, if it did, it has no reason to care. Why should it? What do I offer it that's of any use? Nothing. I am too insignificant to matter. I'm an ant scurrying to get out of the way while a human walks by, not even seeing me. Nine times out of ten that person isn't intending to be cruel if they accidentally step on me, they just didn't even know I was there, because I had nothing useful to offer them.
Or, as you yourself put it...
Individuals, now...individuals are often cold, inhospitable, and cruel. I know this from repeated experience. I try not to hold the world responsible for the actions of the few (who seem like way too many) I've had bad luck with, though it's hard not to take it personally when you just never fit in.
That isn't to argue with the way you're feeling, though, because the main reason I'm even replying at all (I don't interact here much, so far ) is because so many points in your post struck a chord. I too have had lots of people either lie to me or just stop caring and drop the ball/leave me hanging. I too have been stabbed in the back by people I THOUGHT were my friends. I too have the swarms of physical, health, mental, and sensory issues that seem to bother me far more than they would bother others (and there's little empathy to be had aside from "Get used to it"). I too have had the psychiatric/therapeutic community try out all sorts of useless drugs on me (don't get me started on SSRIs) and then, when "Get out and talk to people!" didn't cure my crippling social anxiety, shrug their shoulders and tell me to be grateful I'm not homeless and have books I can read, there's nothing more they can do for me since I must not want to get better, now please sign these dismissal forms and leave so somebody more promising--and useful to the world--can get my therapy time instead. When you have not one but TWO psychologists--plus +25 years' worth of "friends"--give up on you after promising you that you do matter, well...it's hard to believe there is any place in the world for you. And that's what makes the world seem so cold, inhospitable, and cruel. The individuals in it who drop the ball and leave you hanging.
*deepbreath*
So I definitely know that feeling. The last time I was happy? I was around twelve. I'm 38 now. I doubt I'm ever going to get much of that happiness back. It was probably only my naivete that made me happy, and that's long gone too. But for some reason, I keep this stupid little bit of hope that is probably entirely misleading and wrong, but I guess I'm just too lonely to give it all up just yet.
I don't even ask the world to care about me, anymore, even though it would be nice. As long as I have nothing to offer it, I can understand why I have no place. It sucks, but I understand. But I would settle for a few individuals in that world caring about me, instead. It's better than absolutely nothing, and when you're in total despair you could really use the support. A caring compatible individual or two can do wonders in a world that seems cold, inhospitable, and cruel.
Now, to find such people...I have zero advice for that, since I'm still searching.
...
That was sappy... ;_; I find that, unfortunately, I'm usually the sappy wannabe idealist whom the more realistic people on forums can't stand, so please forgive me if all my words do is induce mental gagging. Plus, the next time I have a negative social experience, which will probably be all too soon, my idealism will probably fly out the window. I just can't bear to be the type who offers nothing but doom and gloom, though, since IMO that's never very useful except in terms of pure commiserating. It's perfectly fine to vent and commiserate. But I don't want to add to the unhappiness, when I can try to offer something else, instead. (Don't most of us wish we had something useful to offer others? Or maybe that's just me. I don't know. )
That's lovely. I like that.
(If there is any reply to this and I don't reply back, that's nothing personal, it's my stupid avoidance. I'm a "post-and-run"-type person, for obvious reasons. )
I don't so much feel the world is "cold, inhospitable, and cruel" as I feel I just...don't belong in it. Like I came along too late in the game to be of any use to anyone or anything, all the helpful roles have already been filled, everyone has been paired off already, and the world has moved on without me. To someone in such a position, the world might seem like it's being cold, inhospitable, and cruel, when in truth it's just indifferent. It doesn't know about me and, if it did, it has no reason to care. Why should it? What do I offer it that's of any use? Nothing.
I am too insignificant to matter. I'm an ant scurrying to get out of the way while a human walks by, not even seeing me. Nine times out of ten that person isn't intending to be cruel if they accidentally step on me, they just didn't even know I was there, because I had nothing useful to offer them.Or, as you yourself put it...
existentialterror wrote:
I feel that the struggles of Aspergers is partly "not having the social stuff to EARN other people's care and concern" .
Individuals, now...individuals are often cold, inhospitable, and cruel. I know this from repeated experience. I try not to hold the world responsible for the actions of the few (who seem like way too many) I've had bad luck with, though it's hard not to take it personally when you just never fit in.
That isn't to argue with the way you're feeling, though, because the main reason I'm even replying at all (I don't interact here much, so far
) is because so many points in your post struck a chord. I too have had lots of people either lie to me or just stop caring and drop the ball/leave me hanging. I too have been stabbed in the back by people I THOUGHT were my friends. I too have the swarms of physical, health, mental, and sensory issues that seem to bother me far more than they would bother others (and there's little empathy to be had aside from "Get used to it"). I too have had the psychiatric/therapeutic community try out all sorts of useless drugs on me (don't get me started on SSRIs) and then, when "Get out and talk to people!" didn't cure my crippling social anxiety, shrug their shoulders and tell me to be grateful I'm not homeless and have books I can read, there's nothing more they can do for me since I must not want to get better, now please sign these dismissal forms and leave so somebody more promising--and useful to the world--can get my therapy time instead. When you have not one but TWO psychologists--plus +25 years' worth of "friends"--give up on you after promising you that you do matter, well...it's hard to believe there is any place in the world for you. And that's what makes the world seem so cold, inhospitable, and cruel. The individuals in it who drop the ball and leave you hanging.*deepbreath*
So I definitely know that feeling. The last time I was happy? I was around twelve. I'm 38 now. I doubt I'm ever going to get much of that happiness back.
It was probably only my naivete that made me happy, and that's long gone too. But for some reason, I keep this stupid little bit of hope that is probably entirely misleading and wrong, but I guess I'm just too lonely to give it all up just yet.I don't even ask the world to care about me, anymore, even though it would be nice. As long as I have nothing to offer it, I can understand why I have no place. It sucks, but I understand. But I would settle for a few individuals in that world caring about me, instead. It's better than absolutely nothing, and when you're in total despair you could really use the support. A caring compatible individual or two can do wonders in a world that seems cold, inhospitable, and cruel.
Now, to find such people...I have zero advice for that, since I'm still searching.
...
That was sappy... ;_; I find that, unfortunately, I'm usually the sappy wannabe idealist whom the more realistic people on forums can't stand, so please forgive me if all my words do is induce mental gagging.
Plus, the next time I have a negative social experience, which will probably be all too soon, my idealism will probably fly out the window. I just can't bear to be the type who offers nothing but doom and gloom, though, since IMO that's never very useful except in terms of pure commiserating. It's perfectly fine to vent and commiserate. But I don't want to add to the unhappiness, when I can try to offer something else, instead. (Don't most of us wish we had something useful to offer others? Or maybe that's just me. I don't know. )dryope wrote:
When it lifted after some of the stuff I was trying worked, I could still see all these horrible things, but it was like my brain was on a trampoline -- I went down and then I went up. I like the trampoline much better than the darkness.
That's lovely. I like that.
(If there is any reply to this and I don't reply back, that's nothing personal, it's my stupid avoidance. I'm a "post-and-run"-type person, for obvious reasons.
)I agree.
I too have this extreme idealistic view on friendships and relationships.. a view that can only happen in fairy tales.
I find this world hard to understand, everybody acts like a parasite. Its like the humans around me use me like a battery - when you are out of use, they just throw you away.
In my view, a friendship is always 2 sided. Normally you would get something in return for giving something back. I dont know where the heck it went wrong, but oh boy.. something did go horrible wrong in society.
See someone in despair and crying for help? Better watch out these days, chances are extremely high that they just use you. Watch how they run away from you in agony as soon as the day arrives where you find yourself stuck in the same position and you need their help for once. "Thanks for the help bro, but eh.. im running for the hill now you are in trouble"
People are cruel when it comes to dating and relationships too...
Woman having sex with multiple guys, 'dating' and then after a few weeks selects one of them to enter a serious relationship.. what?!
This is the norm these days... man, im glad i'm single for 3 years now.. i dont know if i can handle it anymore, knowing it is pretty normal these days then when you are dating a girl, chances are you are 1 of the other 5 guys whom she selects from.
My best friend is like that too. My overall strong morale on pretty much everything makes go me crazy in situations like this.. i just dont understand people like that. Everytime i try to understand it, i reflect my own ideas and morale on the situation and then it just becomes one huge conflict.
I dont know how the culture is in your country, but here stuff like that is pretty normal. We live in a consume society, people no longer want to deal with issues and work on friendships and relationships to improve.
Are you in a sh***y friendship?
Feel like your friends are holding you back?
"Delete anyone from your life who holds you back and keep walking"
Man, how many photos i see with messages like that on facebook these days.. psychopathic society
"Unhappy in a relationship? start an affair now!"
"Feel like dating? choose 1 out of 5 while you do them at the same time"
CONSUME.. use everyone and everything for your own personal good
11 Mar 2015, 6:11 pm
Suncatcher wrote:
I agree.
I too have this extreme idealistic view on friendships and relationships.. a view that can only happen in fairy tales.
I find this world hard to understand, everybody acts like a parasite. Its like the humans around me use me like a battery - when you are out of use, they just throw you away.
In my view, a friendship is always 2 sided. Normally you would get something in return for giving something back. I dont know where the heck it went wrong, but oh boy.. something did go horrible wrong in society.
See someone in despair and crying for help? Better watch out these days, chances are extremely high that they just use you. Watch how they run away from you in agony as soon as the day arrives where you find yourself stuck in the same position and you need their help for once. "Thanks for the help bro, but eh.. im running for the hill now you are in trouble"
People are cruel when it comes to dating and relationships too...
Woman having sex with multiple guys, 'dating' and then after a few weeks selects one of them to enter a serious relationship.. what?!
This is the norm these days... man, im glad i'm single for 3 years now.. i dont know if i can handle it anymore, knowing it is pretty normal these days then when you are dating a girl, chances are you are 1 of the other 5 guys whom she selects from.
My best friend is like that too. My overall strong morale on pretty much everything makes go me crazy in situations like this.. i just dont understand people like that. Everytime i try to understand it, i reflect my own ideas and morale on the situation and then it just becomes one huge conflict.
I dont know how the culture is in your country, but here stuff like that is pretty normal. We live in a consume society, people no longer want to deal with issues and work on friendships and relationships to improve.
Are you in a sh***y friendship?
Feel like your friends are holding you back?
"Delete anyone from your life who holds you back and keep walking"
"Unhappy in a relationship? start an affair now!"
Man, how many photos i see with messages like that on facebook these days.. psychopathic society
I too have this extreme idealistic view on friendships and relationships.. a view that can only happen in fairy tales.
I find this world hard to understand, everybody acts like a parasite. Its like the humans around me use me like a battery - when you are out of use, they just throw you away.
In my view, a friendship is always 2 sided. Normally you would get something in return for giving something back. I dont know where the heck it went wrong, but oh boy.. something did go horrible wrong in society.
See someone in despair and crying for help? Better watch out these days, chances are extremely high that they just use you. Watch how they run away from you in agony as soon as the day arrives where you find yourself stuck in the same position and you need their help for once. "Thanks for the help bro, but eh.. im running for the hill now you are in trouble"
People are cruel when it comes to dating and relationships too...
Woman having sex with multiple guys, 'dating' and then after a few weeks selects one of them to enter a serious relationship.. what?!
This is the norm these days... man, im glad i'm single for 3 years now.. i dont know if i can handle it anymore, knowing it is pretty normal these days then when you are dating a girl, chances are you are 1 of the other 5 guys whom she selects from.
My best friend is like that too. My overall strong morale on pretty much everything makes go me crazy in situations like this.. i just dont understand people like that. Everytime i try to understand it, i reflect my own ideas and morale on the situation and then it just becomes one huge conflict.
I dont know how the culture is in your country, but here stuff like that is pretty normal. We live in a consume society, people no longer want to deal with issues and work on friendships and relationships to improve.
Are you in a sh***y friendship?
Feel like your friends are holding you back?
"Delete anyone from your life who holds you back and keep walking"
"Unhappy in a relationship? start an affair now!"
Man, how many photos i see with messages like that on facebook these days.. psychopathic society
I...really don't think we agree.
Even though I see where you're coming from because as I said I've had far too many such moments myself. Including people begging me for help and then bailing out the very moment I was the one who needed support. And I can't count how many people showed a strange amount of interest in getting to know me, then promptly gave up on befriending me when I didn't totally trust them within two weeks. (I wasn't aware there was such a strict time limit on how long it takes to become a great friend, but apparently now there is. 
) If you cannot "insta-friend" someone, you're considered not worth the effort.And yet these same people also complain when you're TOO interested in them, and they want you to back off and go away! There seems to be no way to get it right.
I have never had a guy IRL show any interest in me...I have always been single, and always will be...but online I've had a handful seem to flirt...and then insist they were "only joking" when I politely told them I wasn't interested. And they then proceeded to lambaste me like they were horribly offended by the mere thought that I could have taken them seriously. I've gotten the same reaction from people who insisted they were my friends and then fell out of touch with me, like, how dare I think I was so important that I could be their friend? So...both guys and girls do this sort of thing.
The difference between us is, I still choose to believe there are more good people than bad out there, it's just that 1. I haven't found them yet, and 2. most of them are incompatible with me.
It's usually not their fault I don't fit in with them; I've rejected the friendship of people who aren't compatible with me, too. And I would like to keep trying to work on this problem of "disposable friendships" rather than give up and contribute to it. The world needs more people who care. People frequently ridicule me for this, tell me I'm stupid and gullible, but it's just how I feel. I don't want to be part of the same problem that made me the avoidant wreck I am.But anyway, I'm getting sappy again, and I wish not to detract any further from the OP's situation, since this is the OP's thread and not mine. And I do not, do not, do not want to start any arguments.
Just clarifying my original points. Everyone is entitled to their own view.My apologies if I seemed preachy or superior, it was definitely not intended. I just try not to become completely bitter (though it's a struggle). I recently "left" a forum where my gender was frequently despised (and though I've never done any wrong that I'm aware of, I was held responsible too, plus told that as a woman I can't have any real problems), and where users regularly called for the destruction of all mankind because of how horrible it is (not even those who try to do good were to be spared), so...I do hope those sorts of things do not happen too much here. Otherwise perhaps I made a mistake joining this forum, and I truly DON'T belong anywhere. And I was just starting to feel a bit of kinship for once. God I hate how I never belong no matter where I go.
Perhaps I should stay out of threads like this from now on, for my own peace of mind....Yes, that seems like the best idea. I think I'd rather appear somewhat cold and callous not responding to vent threads, instead of getting myself into unintended conflicts when I just wished to commiserate. I seem to offend people more than I comfort them.
My apologies for my posts in here, OP. I did not mean to invalidate any feelings.*creeps off*
11 Mar 2015, 9:32 pm
12 Mar 2015, 3:49 am
I don't feel that way. But then I'm an optimist and generally feel positive. I grew up in a tough environment and difficult family, after I moved out most people I encountered seem to be nicer than I expected. Of course that's because I don't expect much out of people. When meeting new people I generally assume them to be selfish, unkind, unintelligent and unreasonable. To my delight most people turned out to be way better than that. 
I did have lots of frustrations with the health care here, especially related to mental health care. But it's not the people don't care, there's just not enough funding. If there's more than enough money to go around, I think most people would be pleasant and helpful.
12 Mar 2015, 6:36 am
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