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09 Oct 2011, 12:12 pm

It seems that robots are a common fascination among aspies, but what about stoics? You know, the Grecian tribe that's associated with calmly accepting circumstance and difficulties and being relatively emotionless.

I've admired both robots (More exactly, cybernetic androids) and the stoics, and they both seem to share a common trait of being emotionless. Furthermore, I have a fascination with robotic accuracy, logicality and precision, and the stoic's indifference, calmness and sense of accepting fate/circumstance as it is.

I wonder if this is ALSO tends to be an aspie obsession so, did you ever obsess about Stoics (Or stoicism)?



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09 Oct 2011, 1:27 pm

I do find the whole idea of non-emotionality very appealing. My emotions, after all, are what make me think I am sad, depressed, unsatisfied, etc., and while I have those emotions, I am basically useless.

If I could be happy all the time I would be but that seems to be impossible regardless of my circumstances. A stoic-type approach seems to make the most sense.

I wouldn't call myself 'obsessed', but perhaps when saying someone is obsessed with a philosophy is just another way of saying that they've adopted that philosophy, in which case, yes, I am generally obsessed.



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09 Oct 2011, 1:29 pm

swbluto wrote:
It seems that robots are a common fascination among aspies, but what about stoics? You know, the Grecian tribe that's associated with calmly accepting circumstance and difficulties and being relatively emotionless.

I've admired both robots (More exactly, cybernetic androids) and the stoics, and they both seem to share a common trait of being emotionless. Furthermore, I have a fascination with robotic accuracy, logicality and precision, and the stoic's indifference, calmness and sense of accepting fate/circumstance as it is.

I wonder if this is ALSO tends to be an aspie obsession so, did you ever obsess about Stoics (Or stoicism)?

I want to be stoical and am getting closer to that goal. I am more hermity than anything. I have an easy time being a stoic when I am a hermit.



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09 Oct 2011, 1:42 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
swbluto wrote:
It seems that robots are a common fascination among aspies, but what about stoics? You know, the Grecian tribe that's associated with calmly accepting circumstance and difficulties and being relatively emotionless.

I've admired both robots (More exactly, cybernetic androids) and the stoics, and they both seem to share a common trait of being emotionless. Furthermore, I have a fascination with robotic accuracy, logicality and precision, and the stoic's indifference, calmness and sense of accepting fate/circumstance as it is.

I wonder if this is ALSO tends to be an aspie obsession so, did you ever obsess about Stoics (Or stoicism)?

I want to be stoical and am getting closer to that goal. I am more hermity than anything. I have an easy time being a stoic when I am a hermit.


I don't think being a hermit is what stoicism is about. You have to have things happen to you in order not to care about them.



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09 Oct 2011, 1:45 pm

I like the stoic philosophy. It's very compatible with my emerging worldview.


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09 Oct 2011, 1:50 pm

AldousH wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
swbluto wrote:
It seems that robots are a common fascination among aspies, but what about stoics? You know, the Grecian tribe that's associated with calmly accepting circumstance and difficulties and being relatively emotionless.

I've admired both robots (More exactly, cybernetic androids) and the stoics, and they both seem to share a common trait of being emotionless. Furthermore, I have a fascination with robotic accuracy, logicality and precision, and the stoic's indifference, calmness and sense of accepting fate/circumstance as it is.

I wonder if this is ALSO tends to be an aspie obsession so, did you ever obsess about Stoics (Or stoicism)?

I want to be stoical and am getting closer to that goal. I am more hermity than anything. I have an easy time being a stoic when I am a hermit.


I don't think being a hermit is what stoicism is about. You have to have things happen to you in order not to care about them.

I disagree. Hermitism requires the highest form of stoicism since most people constantly complain about being alone. I never complain about it.



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09 Oct 2011, 1:51 pm

AldousH wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
swbluto wrote:
It seems that robots are a common fascination among aspies, but what about stoics? You know, the Grecian tribe that's associated with calmly accepting circumstance and difficulties and being relatively emotionless.

I've admired both robots (More exactly, cybernetic androids) and the stoics, and they both seem to share a common trait of being emotionless. Furthermore, I have a fascination with robotic accuracy, logicality and precision, and the stoic's indifference, calmness and sense of accepting fate/circumstance as it is.

I wonder if this is ALSO tends to be an aspie obsession so, did you ever obsess about Stoics (Or stoicism)?

I want to be stoical and am getting closer to that goal. I am more hermity than anything. I have an easy time being a stoic when I am a hermit.


I don't think being a hermit is what stoicism is about. You have to have things happen to you in order not to care about them.


A hermit is having something happen to them: The world is passing them by. If that person doesn't care about that, then they're a stoic hermit. Stoicism is an accepting philosophy, and accepts hermits and socialites alike. :)



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09 Oct 2011, 1:57 pm

swbluto wrote:
AldousH wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
swbluto wrote:
It seems that robots are a common fascination among aspies, but what about stoics? You know, the Grecian tribe that's associated with calmly accepting circumstance and difficulties and being relatively emotionless.

I've admired both robots (More exactly, cybernetic androids) and the stoics, and they both seem to share a common trait of being emotionless. Furthermore, I have a fascination with robotic accuracy, logicality and precision, and the stoic's indifference, calmness and sense of accepting fate/circumstance as it is.

I wonder if this is ALSO tends to be an aspie obsession so, did you ever obsess about Stoics (Or stoicism)?

I want to be stoical and am getting closer to that goal. I am more hermity than anything. I have an easy time being a stoic when I am a hermit.


I don't think being a hermit is what stoicism is about. You have to have things happen to you in order not to care about them.


A hermit is having something happen to them: The world is passing them by. If that person doesn't care about that, then they're a stoic hermit. Stoicism is an accepting philosophy, and accepts hermits and socialites alike. :)

That's how I see it.



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09 Oct 2011, 2:32 pm

I've been obsessed with Vulcans for a long time, they are the stoics of Star Trek. (I once wrote that on a secondary school history exam, the teacher was not amused...)


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09 Oct 2011, 2:46 pm

Swordfish210 wrote:
(I once wrote that on a secondary school history exam, the teacher was not amused...)


Haha, awesome!



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09 Oct 2011, 3:03 pm

I was a stoic for much of my life, but eventually I realized I was just letting people get away with stuff. Now when they hurt me, I kick and scream.



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09 Oct 2011, 3:06 pm

I am definitely a hermit and I´m loving it. The outside world wears me out and I don´t find people very pleasant at times.
About being a stoic: sometimes I am and sometimes I overerreact to things. To others I can come across as a stoic because I don't have a lot of facial expression and I don't like to show my emotions to people I hardly know and vice versa. That does not mean that I don't have emotions ofcourse. They are just not anybodies business but mine.



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09 Oct 2011, 3:21 pm

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To others I can come across as a stoic because I don't have a lot of facial expression and I don't like to show my emotions to people I hardly know and vice versa. That does not mean that I don't have emotions ofcourse. They are just not anybodies business but mine.


Fitting username. :P



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09 Oct 2011, 3:24 pm

swbluto wrote:
pokerface wrote:
To others I can come across as a stoic because I don't have a lot of facial expression and I don't like to show my emotions to people I hardly know and vice versa. That does not mean that I don't have emotions ofcourse. They are just not anybodies business but mine.


Fitting username. :P


That is exactyl the reason why I have chosen my username in the first place. :D



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09 Oct 2011, 3:59 pm

I am a pretty stoic person. People tell me I come across as very zen-like. I am almost always calm and level-headed. I tend not to overreact to things.

I wouldn't say I'm a robot or anything, but the comparison is probably apt. Also... I, too, really like the Vulcans. That particular mentality (world view?) is something of an ideal for me. I recognize that emotions are necessary, but I prefer dealing with logic. It's easier for me to understand.


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09 Oct 2011, 4:06 pm

I must have a very different kind of Asperger's. Robots, stoicism, Star Trek etc all give me a cold sad empty feeling. There needs to be a soul in things for me. Logic and acceptance of what is can get you far but the things in life that have meant the most and made me the happiest involved feeling taking over and a break from the limits of logic and circumstance.