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11 Apr 2007, 5:40 am

Does anybody feel questions of psychological tests are absurd and almost impossible and do not suit with her/his life philosophy at all because of complitely different logic and point of view?
If I feel so, what shall I think about it?



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11 Apr 2007, 5:59 am

I think the questions are tools to establish or define a generalisation of you as the subject. Remember they are written from perhaps an NT point of view and are meant to be subjective.


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11 Apr 2007, 6:23 am

Spiritualwoman wrote:
Does anybody feel questions of psychological tests are absurd and almost impossible and do not suit with her/his life philosophy at all because of complitely different logic and point of view?
If I feel so, what shall I think about it?


Yes, absolutely. It's dumb.



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11 Apr 2007, 6:57 am

I feel that many tests do not give an adequate choice of answers. How many times have you seen a question with a Yes / No choice of answers, when your response was actually "Well, it depends..."? So then you have to weigh up in your head whether, on average, you fit in the yes or no group more often. What's wrong with liking variety, or having an inconsistent mind? Surely this will tell an examiner / medic / 'expert' just as much as a yes or no answer? Not fitting into pre-defined groups is a characteristic in itself.

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11 Apr 2007, 7:13 am

I know what you mean!
I had this problem with counsellors / psychologists for years until it was discovered that I had AS. And in some cases I found the counselling damaging because they were forcing me to think in ways that didn't apply to me or make any sense. But they just wouldn't understand this. I was told that I wasn't trying hard enough or that I was being stupid or that I was keeping things from them.

If I said that I didn't understand, they didn't believe me and just had a go at me.

The problem with psychology is that it is based on gross generalisations and on fitting people into 'models' or 'types'. And they seem determined to fit you into these, now matter how incongrous your symptoms and experiences are.

Probably the best thing is to find someone who has a good knowledge and understanding of AS and who has experience of working with aspies.



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11 Apr 2007, 9:39 am

They are trying to fit us into catergories that all.



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11 Apr 2007, 10:37 am

isnt there a set of standards that everyone does so thats what they base the test around?


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11 Apr 2007, 10:49 am

richardbenson wrote:
isnt there a set of standards that everyone does so thats what they base the test around?


There are normalized answers, which are the most common answers to the questions. For me, the Rorschach is the most ridiculous: "What does this look like to you?" Me: "An inkblot." :lol:


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11 Apr 2007, 10:51 am

well i dont remeber any test i take. the hardest test i ever took was one caled the asvab, it was terrible!


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11 Apr 2007, 11:11 am

I think psychology is fascinating but I can’t study it because most of it is far too subjective, and yet in an academic setting they still expect you to come up with “correct” answers. I took a university level psych course in high school and I hated it – they aren’t interested in new theories in the classroom, just textbook answers. Later I realized that it is not just in the classroom, but in the field as well. People who come up with new theories are met with nothing but opposition. They practically need degrees in politics and marketing to get themselves heard. If someone is actually willing to explore the idea, then they need to find funding for research, and then any findings must be peer-reviewed in order to hold any validity whatsoever, which means MORE funding for MORE research. The process can literally take decades. Usually the person who originally came up with the idea is long dead before someone finally says, “hey, maybe so and so was on to something there…”

And then, of course, there’s the whole process of research itself. I can’t even get started on that. I’ll be here all day.



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11 Apr 2007, 11:19 am

richardbenson wrote:
isnt there a set of standards that everyone does so thats what they base the test around?


Well that’s part of the problem. They expect everyone to fit within the standard, or within some normal deviation of the standard. They seem to forget that every single human being on the face of this earth is different. They seem to think that 6 billion people should all fit into a few basic categories, when it’s just not possible!



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11 Apr 2007, 11:27 am

I've always felt these exams should have essay type answers. Do you ever blahdy blah? Answer: well, there have been times when I did that, but not on a day-to-day basis no, although just the other day I ...


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11 Apr 2007, 11:40 am

If I may commandeer this thread for a moment... I've got a question...


Just how severe does it have to seem/feel/be to be considered legitmate? This being in the case of all of the disorders covered here.


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11 Apr 2007, 11:40 am

SeriousGirl wrote:
richardbenson wrote:
isnt there a set of standards that everyone does so thats what they base the test around?


There are normalized answers, which are the most common answers to the questions. For me, the Rorschach is the most ridiculous: "What does this look like to you?" Me: "An inkblot." :lol:


Gee, with me most were indian squaws. I think ONE was a butterfly or something. :lol:

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11 Apr 2007, 12:00 pm

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Gee, with me most were indian squaws. I think ONE was a butterfly or something. :lol:

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I saw lots of butterflies, if I remember correctly. Did you have to do the "tell a story" with the photos?


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11 Apr 2007, 12:11 pm

SeriousGirl wrote:
SteveK wrote:
Gee, with me most were indian squaws. I think ONE was a butterfly or something. :lol:

Steve


I saw lots of butterflies, if I remember correctly. Did you have to do the "tell a story" with the photos?


Well, they gave me OTHER pictures to arrange and make stories with.

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