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28 May 2015, 7:21 am

I don't know why this popped into my head recently, but I'm wondering if any other people on the spectrum hear harmonizing in singing as one voice chronologically trailing after the other?

My ex came from a very musical family, and when I commented to her about this one time, she didn't seem to know what I was talking about. When I hear two people harmonizing in song, it always seems that one person is echoing the other, rather than two voices blended together as, apparently, everyone else hears it. I wonder if this is just another facet of my audio sensory issues.



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28 May 2015, 7:35 am

I don't really understand what you mean, but I'd like to. Could you give a concrete example?



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28 May 2015, 10:50 am

30400v wrote:
I don't really understand what you mean, but I'd like to. Could you give a concrete example?


I'm not a musician, so my terminology may be inaccurate.

What I mean is when two people sing a song at the same time - like in a duet. Theoretically, they are in unison, so it should sound like two voices blending together at once. But what I hear is one voice followed immediately by another, slightly out of sync. Like when you watch a video where the sound track is just slightly off from the picture.



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28 May 2015, 12:58 pm

That's interesting, I've never heard of that. But it makes sense to me in terms of how someone on the spectrum could have sensory issues. What is the time delay from one part to the other? Are we talking, like, a beat? A couple milliseconds? Do the pitches matter at all?


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28 May 2015, 1:16 pm

Harmonizing is singing different but complementary notes, like the notes of a chord. Unison is singing the same note. To which are you referring?



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28 May 2015, 1:20 pm

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Harmonizing is singing different but complementary notes, like the notes of a chord. Unison is singing the same note. To which are you referring?


Your question exceeds my understanding of music. Most likely the former. Maybe it's a difference in notes that I'm detecting? Either way, it sounds like they're just a fraction of a second off to me.



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28 May 2015, 1:21 pm

cavernio wrote:
That's interesting, I've never heard of that. But it makes sense to me in terms of how someone on the spectrum could have sensory issues. What is the time delay from one part to the other? Are we talking, like, a beat? A couple milliseconds? Do the pitches matter at all?


I'd say milliseconds. I don't know what pitch is or I'd tell you. Like I said, I have virtually no knowledge of parts of music. I just know how it sounds to me.



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28 May 2015, 1:23 pm

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I don't know what pitch is or I'd tell you. Like I said, I have virtually no knowledge of parts of music. I just know how it sounds to me.


Can you tell if the pitches are the same or different? I mean is one voice singing higher or lower than the other?



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28 May 2015, 6:18 pm

untilwereturn wrote:
cavernio wrote:
That's interesting, I've never heard of that. But it makes sense to me in terms of how someone on the spectrum could have sensory issues. What is the time delay from one part to the other? Are we talking, like, a beat? A couple milliseconds? Do the pitches matter at all?


I'd say milliseconds. I don't know what pitch is or I'd tell you. Like I said, I have virtually no knowledge of parts of music. I just know how it sounds to me.


It's perfectly normal that two voices (whether at unison or in harmony) are very slighty out of sync, since humans are not machines. Also those voices could be intentionally delayed in order to create some groove. But even if the singers were supposed to sing exactly at the same time, there still would be some subtle human imprecisions. Most people wouldn't hear it but if one have a good hearing and can focus on details, he might well hear it.