Why do people equate autism with innocence?

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03 Jun 2015, 5:59 am

Well I guess it depends on the severity of the said autism, and the individual's ability to comprehend the notion of morality. However we are human beings and just like any other human being we all have distinct traits and attributes. Meaning that there are those of use who are nice or whatever and then there are those amongst us who have sh***y attitudes, ill intentions etc. So why do people like to infantilize individuals with autism? Is it because of our alleged childlike and naive nature? But despite that child like nature, that doesn't always mean innocence though... So why do people do this and perpetuate this?


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03 Jun 2015, 6:02 am

I think it's the naive thing.

It doesn't bother me, though.

Is it bothering you?


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03 Jun 2015, 6:13 am

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I think it's the naive thing.

It doesn't bother me, though.

Is it bothering you?


It doesn't necessarily bother me.. In fact it can be beneficial... No one will ever suspect me! Haha xD

But it does intrigue me when people instantly assume that ALL autistic people are innocent. It's an interesting assumption to make. :lol:


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03 Jun 2015, 6:22 am

People have always assumed I am innocent. Maybe it's because I'm quiet, I don't know why.

When I swore under my breath (note: this was mid teens) they freaked out and were like "I didn't know you knew swear words!".

People genuinely are in awe about it and were really thrown back.



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03 Jun 2015, 6:37 am

I am very naif and gullible. I also can't use rude words very well IRL (such as fúck etc). That makes some people think I'm rather innocent. My coworker is really amused when I use rude words (my recent favorite is cúnt) because it doesn't really suit me. He says he is influencing me (as if I were a child). But I can be quite sneaky when I have to.

I think many autistic people have an innocent-like side as well as other sides. Socially awkward people probably look innocent.



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03 Jun 2015, 7:23 am

Social awkwardness appears like innocence to people who don't know any better.



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03 Jun 2015, 9:32 am

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03 Jun 2015, 10:41 am

I think it is the relative social naivety and reticence. It seems easy to project innocence on "quiet types". But in my personal experience I have learned the hard way that can be a perilous assumption. :D



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03 Jun 2015, 11:00 am

I know nothing about it.

Since I remember I was always considered guilty and liar no matter what I did or said. It was always my word vs my bullies word and guess who was better with body language and explaining what happened? Yup. They were. I was punished many times because teachers and parents were thinking I was the bad kid that was picking on everyone, crying without a reason and imagining things that didn't happen.

It was traumatic to me.

Because of that I am afraid of doing anything that has a risk of me being suspected of something bad because I know suspicion = punishment in my case since I could never successfully protect myself from false accusations as a kid.
For example I always take bills from any shop I am in if I am planning to go to another shop afterwards (so I have a prove in case someone suspect me I took it from their shop) and I make sure I show my mobile phone or tissue to shop camera before I put it back into my pocket in case someone imagined I put there something else. Fortunately noone accused me anything serious since I am an adult but I am still afraid it might happen because I was commonly a victim of false accusations in school.

The fun part is I have never considered doing anything bad and my moral code is well developed. I cannot understand why people intentionally hurt each other. I learned how to use white lies and sarcasm with age but that's it. I would never lie to make someone hurt and if I do something wrong I will just admit it because telling I didn't do it and figuring out how to prove I really didn't would be a huge pain - in such situations I still tend to believe that everyone knows what I know(although I logically know it can't be true) and my lies wouldn't make sense even if I tried lying.



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03 Jun 2015, 1:36 pm

Yes, people always assume that I'm some unintelligent, unimportant person with the mind of a child.

It's mainly because I don't speak much, and I'm s**t at communication of course


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03 Jun 2015, 1:41 pm

Because they think the people with autism are naive and good-intented. However you never know if there may be a Mengele out there amongs us.



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03 Jun 2015, 2:07 pm

IMO: Because NTs equate maturity mostly from social maturity...


The impression of being perceived as innocent is both beneficial and and annoying sometimes.
Sure, I get to do most of my intentions but people mistook me for not knowing any better. -.-
But to be honest, sometimes I want to get rid of my own innocence.

I'm sick of leniency because I might not learn. But I don't want to be treated like a crap either just because, which is obvious.


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03 Jun 2015, 3:26 pm

Yet at the same time, some people are very suspicious and afraid of us.

Psychologists seem to often link it with violence and aggression, as does the media.



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03 Jun 2015, 3:50 pm

Aniihya wrote:
Because they think the people with autism are naive and good-intented. However you never know if there may be a Mengele out there amongs us.



This is true. Some seem very naive and not in a bad way. Almost child like and innocent, sometimes due to lack of social skills. It can be attractive. Some people fail to realize, that the person may just be naive in one small area of their life and extremly smart in others. But this can be dangerous for anyone who doesn't understand that "seems innocent" doesn't mean not dangerous.

Not saying Autism equals violence or any other developmental condition, but I am saying is that there are a few bad apples everywhere.



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03 Jun 2015, 3:52 pm

Most people think autistics behave childish or have childish interests which they link to innocence



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03 Jun 2015, 7:58 pm

Disagree with the premise. Most people associate lack of eye contact with a person lying to hide something.


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