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Jamesy
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12 Jun 2015, 8:06 am

Back in October at the place I used to work I was paired up to do the same job/project as this other boy who had dyspraxia and some co morbid condition. His behaviour was very different to how others behaved in the office. I was insulted to be labeld the same as him by my boss.

I did talk about this experience with my job coach yesterday and he said to me "well maybe the people who were in charge of the place you worked had certain views about you"

What does he mean by certain views? My boss etc knew in advance that I had aspergers.



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12 Jun 2015, 8:31 am

I think "certain views" in this case means very different views about you from your own views of yourself, meaning they think that you are not as normal as you think you are. It's really not nice.

And knowing that you have Asperger's might have made them have prejudice about you possibly because they have a wrong idea about Asperger's Syndrome. A similar thing has happened to me before.

Well, that's how I'd interpret that.



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12 Jun 2015, 8:42 am

There is a tendency to lump people with certain kinds of conditions together.

Like all the students with learning disabilities get put together in a room. And you could have people with very low IQ next to someone with a high IQ and ADHD. Obviously they need very different things, but they are often grouped together.

Technically AS is not a learning disability, but it often gets lumped in with them. And some symptoms can make it harder for you to learn.

Another thing I have noticed is that people who are different are often more tolerant of other people who are different. Even if they are different in different ways. Something like: I will not say anything about your eating pasta with your hands if you do not say anything about me having a stuffed animal pinned to my shirt. In high school I found that weird kids tended to be more accepting of my than the "normal" kids. It was not a 100% thing, but it was a noticeable difference.



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12 Jun 2015, 9:36 am

LadyLuna wrote:

Another thing I have noticed is that people who are different are often more tolerant of other people who are different. Even if they are different in different ways. Something like: I will not say anything about your eating pasta with your hands if you do not say anything about me having a stuffed animal pinned to my shirt. In high school I found that weird kids tended to be more accepting of my than the "normal" kids. It was not a 100% thing, but it was a noticeable difference.



Really? From experience I find 2 abnormal people put together annoy eachother






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I think "certain views" in this case means very different views about you from your own views of yourself, meaning they think that you are not as normal as you think you are. It's really not nice.

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What do you not as normal as I think I am?



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12 Jun 2015, 9:38 am

I have no idea how "normal" you are because I've never seen you in my life.



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12 Jun 2015, 9:54 am

"Certain views of you" means he thinks you are abnormal.

They put you two together because they (mistakenly?) think that two abnormal people will feel more tolerant of each other's abnormality.



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12 Jun 2015, 9:59 am

The best way to offset these "certain views" is to do your job to the best of your ability.

People have had a "certain view" of me all my life.

I, frankly, don't give a rat's butt about that. I know what I'm about!



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12 Jun 2015, 10:02 am

Jamesy wrote:
jk1 wrote:
I think "certain views" in this case means very different views about you from your own views of yourself, meaning they think that you are not as normal as you think you are. It's really not nice.

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What do you not as normal as I think I am?

I think the word "normal" is quite vague but what I meant was that they might be seeing you as being very different in behavior just like the boy you worked with. Not that being different or being not "normal" is bad in any way. Also as I said earlier their opinion of you could simply be their imagination based on their prejudiced idea of Asperger's Syndrome. I'm just trying to interpret what your job coach said. I could be totally wrong.



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12 Jun 2015, 10:07 am

My dad did say to me a few weeks ago "I don't think you realise how abnormal your behaviour is". :(



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12 Jun 2015, 10:11 am

@ kraftiekortie
It's like I am the "bad news girl" and you are always the "good news guy". LOL
Whenever we post on the same thread we always seem to have opposite views. I just thought it was funny, that's all.



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12 Jun 2015, 10:13 am

Your boss might not have been labeling you the same, he might have just thought you could handle working with the other guy and he needed someone to.



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12 Jun 2015, 10:18 am

On the bright side one lady in the office said to me "ben is a completely different kettle of fish to you"

Saying that to not hurt my feelings maybe?



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12 Jun 2015, 10:20 am

I actually find we have similar views on things, Molly.

I think you have a pretty good head on your shoulders, and know lots of things.

That's what I really feel.