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02 Jul 2015, 11:04 am

Hey guys. I was formerly diagnosed with hfa (mildly). But I am certain I dint really have it; instead that I display autistic like traits as an adaption to the environment.

Also it's in my report I am sometimes emotionally detached which isn't a part of autism and that can certainly be a good trait at times. It means you can live more efficiently and emotions about other people don't get in the way of doing a good job of things.

Intense focus on a special interest: so long as you are able to focus on something worthwhile then this is a good trait. If you focus and work towards a goal over a long period of time you will almost certainly achieve it. Other people may give up but if you have very intense focus you won't let anything stop you.

Wanting to learn lots of information can help you to adapt your behaviour and gain new skills. You won't want to give up no matter how many mistakes you make. Always keep trying. Always continue.

I do have some social difficulty but I am working on it. I was sheltered while young and everyone make out the world was a dangerous place and I was vulnerable so that made an impression upon me and probably is why I haven't learnt social skills as well but I can read facial expressions.

sometimes I didn't speak as a kid but that's because I must be quiet to be good.

These traits are not because of a disorder, but an adaptation to the environment around me.


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02 Jul 2015, 11:25 am

starfox wrote:
Hey guys. I was formerly diagnosed with hfa (mildly). But I am certain I dint really have it; instead that I display autistic like traits as an adaption to the environment.

Also it's in my report I am sometimes emotionally detached which isn't a part of autism and that can certainly be a good trait at times. It means you can live more efficiently and emotions about other people don't get in the way of doing a good job of things.

Intense focus on a special interest: so long as you are able to focus on something worthwhile then this is a good trait. If you focus and work towards a goal over a long period of time you will almost certainly achieve it. Other people may give up but if you have very intense focus you won't let anything stop you.

Wanting to learn lots of information can help you to adapt your behaviour and gain new skills. You won't want to give up no matter how many mistakes you make. Always keep trying. Always continue.

I do have some social difficulty but I am working on it. I was sheltered while young and everyone make out the world was a dangerous place and I was vulnerable so that made an impression upon me and probably is why I haven't learnt social skills as well but I can read facial expressions.

sometimes I didn't speak as a kid but that's because I must be quiet to be good.

These traits are not because of a disorder, but an adaptation to the environment around me.


I am not going to diagnose or undiagnosed you but assuming others are like you is an Autistic trait. Willpower and focus and not giving up can and often do lead to great things. It is an utterly false statement to claim everybody can achieve their goals if focused, try hard , and never give up. As good as never giving up is at times it can lead to stubbornness, time wasted that would be put to better use trying to achieve an obtainable goal.


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04 Jul 2015, 3:12 pm

The only environmental condition I know of that has been linked with learned autistic behavior is spending infancy in an orphanage.

Lack of interaction with adults = poor social skills and language delays
Lack of sensory stimulation = sensory hypersensitivity and stimming
Extremely predictable routine = inability to cope with changes in routine

It's important to keep in mind that autistic behavior makes sense to the autistic person, even if others wouldn't want to do that or wouldn't have thought of doing that. If you've been a certain way all your life, you're going to take it for granted. It can be hard to pick up on the fact that NTs in the same situation would act completely differently.



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04 Jul 2015, 4:30 pm

Ettina wrote:
The only environmental condition I know of that has been linked with learned autistic behavior is spending infancy in an orphanage.

Lack of interaction with adults = poor social skills and language delays
Lack of sensory stimulation = sensory hypersensitivity and stimming
Extremely predictable routine = inability to cope with changes in routine

It's important to keep in mind that autistic behavior makes sense to the autistic person, even if others wouldn't want to do that or wouldn't have thought of doing that. If you've been a certain way all your life, you're going to take it for granted. It can be hard to pick up on the fact that NTs in the same situation would act completely differently.


I learn at the moment a lot about developmental trauma, literature by Peter Levine and Laurence Heller and to me it seems, that developmental trauma can display autism-like symptoms or just autism.
In the 1980 years people rejected the "refrigerator mum"-Theory, but this was in regard to low-functioning autism, because high-functioning autism did not exist.
But reading the literature developmental trauma can display symptoms of high-functioning autism.
Because the very early contact structure is not getting "served" and developed (prenatal to 6 month)
Human beings are born too early and need in contrast to animals longer time of symbiosis with the caregiving person to for brainfunctions to develop.
The first years are crucial to it, and quite some people on here have reported to be raised by an eg. narcissistic mother.
Narcissistic mothers usually do not serve the need of a babies contact structure sufficiently.
The same applies to a very depressiv mother.
Or father if he is primary care-giver.
In my view, the child can develop noticable autistic traits, but in a "high-functioning" range, if it does not have an intellectual disability.
But usually intellectual disability gets noticed by the outside world, and there comes support in place, but not with children who have no intellectual disability.


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04 Jul 2015, 7:11 pm

Eloa wrote:
In the 1980 years people rejected the "refrigerator mum"-Theory, but this was in regard to low-functioning autism, because high-functioning autism did not exist.


correction: I did not mean that high-functioning autism did not existed, but it was not recognized in DSM or ICD, meaning it existed but was not recognized in mental health care.


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04 Jul 2015, 7:24 pm

Eloa wrote:
Eloa wrote:
In the 1980 years people rejected the "refrigerator mum"-Theory, but this was in regard to low-functioning autism, because high-functioning autism did not exist.


correction: I did not mean that high-functioning autism did not existed, but it was not recognized in DSM or ICD, meaning it existed but was not recognized in mental health care.


HFA still isn't fully recognised at least in my perspective, I get no support whatsoever yet my jobcentre knows so maybe its just for children and teenagers. I should be getting disability benefits for not being able to work in some sectors due to the mental incapacities that would be preventing me from working. In my eyes, autism is just like any other stereotype just like how the worlds population are being indoctrinated by the islamic state convincing everyone that islam/muslim community is being run incorrectly and things need to change. This is comparable in a way because we are being portrayed as a negative influence on the world, as if you were part of IS it would be natural to embrace who you are and show the world that you mean business. I'm not for terrorism but i genuinely believe they fight for what they want most and thats probably freedom from oppression and they want to eliminate those who are against them.



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04 Jul 2015, 7:50 pm

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I'm not for terrorism but i genuinely believe they fight for what they want most and thats probably freedom from oppression and they want to eliminate those who are against them.



They are certainly not for freedom. They want to dictate their Islamic utopian ideas on lifestyle to others. They don't just want a state in the Middle East, they want to conquer he entire world for the purpose of dictating others how they should live. If you don't comply, you must be killed in their eyes. They are oppressors.



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04 Jul 2015, 8:10 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
Willpower and focus and not giving up can and often do lead to great things. It is an utterly false statement to claim everybody can achieve their goals if focused, try hard , and never give up. As good as never giving up is at times it can lead to stubbornness, time wasted that would be put to better use trying to achieve an obtainable goal.

Have to agree with that. There IS such a word as "can't."



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05 Jul 2015, 1:42 pm

I am not sure if you are in denial or misdiagnosed. Sometimes people will make up excuses for their autistic traits to justify why they have them to claim why they do not have autism.


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05 Jul 2015, 1:58 pm

League_Girl wrote:
I am not sure if you are in denial or misdiagnosed. Sometimes people will make up excuses for their autistic traits to justify why they have them to claim why they do not have autism.


You know what, I think I probably do actually have it but it's just not always noticeable. I made loads of mistakes the past few days; and all those were due to my asd symptoms even though I always try not to make mistakes, I still do very very often. They're all small mistakes but I think over time people might get the impression that I'm an idiot or something lol.


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