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Cockroach96
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12 Jul 2015, 3:25 pm

We know this crap very well and we hate it.

When an NT is a stupid attention-seeking clown, nobody bats an eye. When an aspie just says something, he is called names.

When an NT throws a full-blown tantrum, nobody cares. When an aspie raises his voice a little, he is immediately silenced.

Tell me your discrimination stories.


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12 Jul 2015, 3:58 pm

I would tease other kids and be scolded about it and be given a time out or something. Other kids tease me and I get upset, I get scolded for it and get told they are just playing and I am told in 7th grade they are just being children and to ignore it and they do it to each other.

Other kids could break rules and act all inappropriate and nothing is done, I do it and a big deal is made and I am labeled as having behavior problems. In high school kids could do silly things but when I would do them, a big deal is made.

Other kids could get away with having accidents on the monkey bars (kicking each other) and they get over it and no one is mad at them, I do it and kids get mad at me and make me feel bad for it and say I am mean.


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12 Jul 2015, 4:13 pm

I have tons!! !! !! !! !! !!

An Aspie is having a bad day, and has a lot of other things on her mind. Somebody smiles/says hello to the Aspie but the Aspie doesn't respond. The Aspie gets told this:-
''I know you are having a bad day and XYZ has stressed you out, but ignoring people who are being friendly to you is rude, and you can't just expect everybody to guess you are having a bad day!''

An NT is having a bad day, and has a lot of other things on his mind. An Aspie smiles/says hello to the NT but the NT doesn't respond, and the Aspie gets hurt. The Aspie gets told this:-
''He is probably having a bad day, you need to realise that other people have problems too! Have empathy!''


Empathy, empathy, empathy - I hate that word!! ! Take this scenario for example:-

An Aspie is getting agitated because a baby is crying loud on an airplane. The Aspie gets told this:-
''You need to have empathy for that baby, his ears are probably hurting from the pressure of going up in the air.''
Even though the Aspie knows that but still can't help disliking the noise the baby is making.

Some NTs are mocking an Aspie in the street because someone is using a loud drill which is hurting the Aspie's ears, and the Aspie has his hands over his ears. Nobody tells the NTs to have empathy for the Aspie - even if they know he has Asperger's or Autism.


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12 Jul 2015, 4:20 pm

League_Girl wrote:
I would tease other kids and be scolded about it and be given a time out or something. Other kids tease me and I get upset, I get scolded for it and get told they are just playing and I am told in 7th grade they are just being children and to ignore it and they do it to each other.

Other kids could break rules and act all inappropriate and nothing is done, I do it and a big deal is made and I am labeled as having behavior problems. In high school kids could do silly things but when I would do them, a big deal is made.

Other kids could get away with having accidents on the monkey bars (kicking each other) and they get over it and no one is mad at them, I do it and kids get mad at me and make me feel bad for it and say I am mean.


I once saw on this TV programme where an Aspie was being horribly bullied at school by a group of boys and girls. They were calling him names, making him feel humiliated, and they even intimidated him. Then one day they made him feel so angry that he decided to defend himself, and so he called them names, what weren't as bad as the names they called him and the nasty things they said to him. After that the Aspie got called into the office, and was scolded for calling the bullies a few names - even though the staff knew that the bullying was going on and what was being said by the bullies, etc. But as soon as they heard the Aspie had yelled something back, he was soon in the office, being told, ''how do you think those people felt when you called them that?'', as though he's expected to have empathy for his bullies, even though his feelings were trampled on a hundred times.

This is why I hate being on the spectrum. Aspies must have empathy for NTs at any given time, one misunderstanding and Autism gets a bad name. NTs can not give a damn about non-NTs (or other NTs too), and they still don't get a lecture or get a bad name.


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12 Jul 2015, 4:44 pm

Cockroach96 wrote:
We know this crap very well and we hate it.

When an NT is a stupid attention-seeking clown, nobody bats an eye. When an aspie just says something, he is called names.

When an NT throws a full-blown tantrum, nobody cares. When an aspie raises his voice a little, he is immediately silenced.

Tell me your discrimination stories.


Mmmm... I don't totally see eye to eye with this. At my job, when an NT has thrown a tantrum, they normally get fired, and everyone talks trash about them. This has happened a few times.

A lot of times when I've gotten mad or flipped in an unusual way, my bosses are generally more sympathetic toward me, because they know I'm a little different, and they appreciate how hard I work.

I guess I'm fortunate in that aspect. But I think what happens a lot is the "little brother/sister" anomaly. Two siblings are sitting in the back seat. The younger one does something to irritate the older repeatedly. The older sibling retaliates out of annoyance, and then is the one to get in trouble instead of the younger one who is responsible.

I think NT's and Aspies both experience the whole school bully scenario, of whenever the "victim" finally retaliates and fights back, they're the ones in trouble instead. It's unfortunate, but humanity is historically famous for being just and fair.

I'm sorry if you guys have been discriminated against because of having ASD. It's really sad if that's been the case.

But perhaps a good portion of a lot of the unfair circumstances you guys have posted might be a result of people not knowing or understanding that you even have ASD in the first place. I'm sure lots of NTs have indeed been scolded for the same things that we have. Society is full of double standards and hypocrisy. To escape it, you would have to leave this world, or isolate yourself from human contact. But I don't really want to do that.

Take it with a grain of salt, but these are my thoughts. :chin:


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12 Jul 2015, 4:57 pm

In my opinion, WrongPlanet.net, its moderators, many of its members, and plenty of the apparent government trolls and useful-idiot tools thereat.

I have been the victim of much discrimination in my life, but rarely from the very community of which I was a member. This changed completely on June 20, 2014, when I joined this forum. In the last few months, however, the degree of double-standards here have exceeded any reasonable understanding of fairness and civility. This is now a hostile experience for me. I see little about this condition that suggests any improvement.


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13 Jul 2015, 8:27 pm

People bullied me & when I told the teacher I was told they were just joking. But when I told somebody something to joke or I retaliated an told a bully something back or hit them after they hit me they told the teacher on me & I got in trouble. One time after I was being bullied I started fighting back & the bully told the teacher I grabbed his crotch; I may have brushed it accidentally while fighting but I was trying to defend myself & I defiantly was NOT trying to do anything sexual with him. My dad had to meet with the principle & he asked if they were any witnesses & the principle said that he wouldn't lie so I was accused of lying by the school when I said I did not do it. Thankfully my dad realized how they were against me so he didn't punish me or anything & my parents switched me to a school for dyslexia afew months later.


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13 Jul 2015, 8:43 pm

I think we just get caught more often. We also aren't very good at sucking up to authority which is needed after getting caught doing something, so we get a worse punishment.


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13 Jul 2015, 8:51 pm

5th grade special ed class. Another student was always causing trouble but when caught was be given a light writing assignment every time. With that, one time the teacher asked me a loaded question and i was unable to give an answer immediately, so i got punished for "disrespecting the teacher" and gave my a punishment worse than all the other students punishments combined. And that was the first time he administered something to me.

And i tried to stay out of trouble though it was always looking for me.



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13 Jul 2015, 8:56 pm

People in general are purposely too lenient towards me, if not purposely crappy (The usual authority bullies). I'm glad I found a place where I could get to be treated equally so I could learn more.
In my youth, among all female students, I'm the one who gets in trouble as much as boys. More or less because of that, all school principals I've encountered remembers my name. The rest who gets as much (if not more) office visits as I do, isn't as memorable in their minds. They just recall them as another troublemaker, while they recall my name.
Even at my last high school years (And all years in college!), where I never had trouble at all, the faculties knew me even I never encountered them. I don't know if people are talking about me a lot, but I do know they don't recall other students as often.
When I did something, even if it's so insignificant, it's like a big deal for them.

I'm too noticeable in neither good or bad way, but noticeable nonetheless.

... Funny, when it comes to my current trainer: I perceive him as a bit too nice but strict enough to treat me equally. While my peers perceives him as aloof and strict when I clearly see him interact with them just as fine and the same.
I'm rather glad he doesn't treat me like a child. Even though sometimes he mistook me for acting like one for having a high pitched tone, but then that's just him being NT and I'll bear with it.


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